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		<title>By: KevinfromCanada</title>
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		<dc:creator>KevinfromCanada</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 03:05:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>dovegreyreader:  Thank you very much for the kind thoughts -- I will check out your post tomorrow and leave a comment.  I do think the comparison with Penelope Firzgerald is quite appropriate.  She is a little more accessible on the first read -- it is only the second and third time through that you really come to appreciate what it is about, although you don&#039;t usually have to make the kind of stretch that Berger requires.  Isn&#039;t it amazing how good a book can be the second time through when your mind starts looking at it starting with a totally different set of assumptions?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>dovegreyreader:  Thank you very much for the kind thoughts &#8212; I will check out your post tomorrow and leave a comment.  I do think the comparison with Penelope Firzgerald is quite appropriate.  She is a little more accessible on the first read &#8212; it is only the second and third time through that you really come to appreciate what it is about, although you don&#8217;t usually have to make the kind of stretch that Berger requires.  Isn&#8217;t it amazing how good a book can be the second time through when your mind starts looking at it starting with a totally different set of assumptions?</p>
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		<title>By: dovegreyreader</title>
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		<dc:creator>dovegreyreader</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Sep 2008 21:05:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kevin I have mentioned your patent Berger reading method on my blog post about From A to X tomorrow and can&#039;t thank you enough for it. I loved the book first time round and said so a while back , then read Sam Leith&#039;s rather vitriolic review in The Daily Telegraph and started questioning quite why I&#039;d enjoyed this book so much. I&#039;m mid-re-read using your new set of assumptions and know I&#039;ve found a writer in Berger who I will read much more of.I liken the gaps and silences to the writing style of Penelope Fitzgerald who invented less is more I think!
Re The Giller Prize I do try and tap into that because I love CanLit and reviewed Vincent Lam&#039;s book on the blog a few year&#039;s ago.I was sad that it never really took off here in the UK. BTW I have The Northern Clemency down as one of my best Booker Longlist reads so far, perhaps you need to have lived it to love it:-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kevin I have mentioned your patent Berger reading method on my blog post about From A to X tomorrow and can&#8217;t thank you enough for it. I loved the book first time round and said so a while back , then read Sam Leith&#8217;s rather vitriolic review in The Daily Telegraph and started questioning quite why I&#8217;d enjoyed this book so much. I&#8217;m mid-re-read using your new set of assumptions and know I&#8217;ve found a writer in Berger who I will read much more of.I liken the gaps and silences to the writing style of Penelope Fitzgerald who invented less is more I think!<br />
Re The Giller Prize I do try and tap into that because I love CanLit and reviewed Vincent Lam&#8217;s book on the blog a few year&#8217;s ago.I was sad that it never really took off here in the UK. BTW I have The Northern Clemency down as one of my best Booker Longlist reads so far, perhaps you need to have lived it to love it:-)</p>
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		<title>By: KevinfromCanada</title>
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		<dc:creator>KevinfromCanada</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Sep 2008 15:00:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Colette:  Thanks so much for that last note -- I think it makes great sense.  We have exchanged thoughts on the MB forum and this last observation really helps me in my interpretation.  I do see a distance between A&#039;ida (who I think is real -- I just don&#039;t think she wrote the sent letters, but did write the unsent ones) and the prison (which I do think is somewhere else).  Placing her -- and the actions those sent letters describe -- in Majorca makes great sense.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Colette:  Thanks so much for that last note &#8212; I think it makes great sense.  We have exchanged thoughts on the MB forum and this last observation really helps me in my interpretation.  I do see a distance between A&#8217;ida (who I think is real &#8212; I just don&#8217;t think she wrote the sent letters, but did write the unsent ones) and the prison (which I do think is somewhere else).  Placing her &#8212; and the actions those sent letters describe &#8212; in Majorca makes great sense.</p>
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		<title>By: Colette Jones</title>
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		<dc:creator>Colette Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Sep 2008 11:17:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hadn&#039;t thought much about the apostrophe in the name while reading the book but when I saw mention of it here, I am more inclined to see it as an abbreviation of the small Majorcan town of Algaida rather than Al Qaeda / Al Quaida.

(I&#039;m Ang from Man Booker forum).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hadn&#8217;t thought much about the apostrophe in the name while reading the book but when I saw mention of it here, I am more inclined to see it as an abbreviation of the small Majorcan town of Algaida rather than Al Qaeda / Al Quaida.</p>
<p>(I&#8217;m Ang from Man Booker forum).</p>
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		<title>By: KevinfromCanada</title>
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		<dc:creator>KevinfromCanada</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Sep 2008 04:22:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m happy to have piqued your interest, and hopefully that of others as well.  If and when you get time for either Huston and/or Williams, I think you will find it well invested.  Neither is a perfect novelist, but both are worth reading.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m happy to have piqued your interest, and hopefully that of others as well.  If and when you get time for either Huston and/or Williams, I think you will find it well invested.  Neither is a perfect novelist, but both are worth reading.</p>
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		<title>By: Trevor Berrett</title>
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		<dc:creator>Trevor Berrett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Sep 2008 00:05:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re right, Kevin.  My to-be-read pile is high and growing; yet I welcome enthusiastically your recommendations.  I&#039;m especially interested in Nancy Huston and John Williams now.  I&#039;d never heard of Nancy Huston.  And John Williams has only come up as I&#039;ve perused the NYRB books.

I look forward to more of your recommendations.  It&#039;s nice to be connected with people who like similar books.  It&#039;s easy to find &quot;classics&quot; and current bestsellers.  But I&#039;m always looking for more of what I&#039;d consider modern classics that are almost forgotten.  I find them to be so rewarding, so thanks for the recommendations!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re right, Kevin.  My to-be-read pile is high and growing; yet I welcome enthusiastically your recommendations.  I&#8217;m especially interested in Nancy Huston and John Williams now.  I&#8217;d never heard of Nancy Huston.  And John Williams has only come up as I&#8217;ve perused the NYRB books.</p>
<p>I look forward to more of your recommendations.  It&#8217;s nice to be connected with people who like similar books.  It&#8217;s easy to find &#8220;classics&#8221; and current bestsellers.  But I&#8217;m always looking for more of what I&#8217;d consider modern classics that are almost forgotten.  I find them to be so rewarding, so thanks for the recommendations!</p>
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		<title>By: KevinfromCanada</title>
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		<dc:creator>KevinfromCanada</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Aug 2008 16:30:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Trevor:  This is probably going to be a long reply, boring to others on the post, but what the heck.

I would be happy to provide Giller recommendations but they may have to wait for a few weeks.  I&#039;ve been grumpy about the Giller in the last few years.  Two winners were short story collections (The Runaway by Alice Munro and Bloodletting &amp; Miraculous Cures by Vincent Lam);  they are both fine books, but I admit I am not a short story fan, don&#039;t read many of them and don&#039;t feel qualified to either recommend or dismiss them.  Last year&#039;s winner, Nights on Air by Elizabeth Hay, is a fine book but I don&#039;t think it would travel well -- set in Yellowknife, it is mainly about the modern frontier experience and you need a knowledge of the CBC to truly experience it.

Your comment has, however, moved up two other books on my re-read list.  Clara Callan by Richard Wright won the Giller in 2001 and Netherland caused me to think I should give it another read.  The book is an exchange of letters between sisters -- one in New York where she is a soap opera radio star, the other in the Ottawa River Valley (all this in the 1930s).  I quite liked it when it was published -- I&#039;ll give it another read and see if it has stood up to the last seven years.  I&#039;m also planning to reread The In-Between Life of Vikram Lall by M. G. Vassanji which won in 2003.  Vassanji is topical now because his latest book (The Assassin&#039;s Song) is just being released in the U.K. -- it is not a good book.  When he is good, Vassanji is very, very good -- when he is bad, he is horrid.  Again, I&#039;ll send more thoughts later.

I note your interest in translated work and wonder if you have ever run into Nancy Huston.  She was born and raised in Calgary, Alberta (that&#039;s where I live) and moved to Paris in her teens which is where she is now.  She writes most, but not all, of her work in French and then does her own translation.  She is very, very successful in France -- has won the Prix Gencourt, Prix Femina, etc. -- and routinely sells hundreds of thousands of copies there.  Alas, her English translations get little attention.  Her most recent book, Fault Lines (and it is the one I would point you too) sold more than 400,000 copies in 2005 in France and won the Prix Femina -- but won&#039;t be published in the U.S. until Oct. 1 this year.  I thought it was an excellent book (albeit with flaws) -- Google it and check out the Guardian review, which I think is quite fair.  It does strike me as your kind of book and I think Huston is a very good author.

And finally, given your interest in NYRB Classics (which I both share and salute), have you looked at John Williams?  He only wrote three novels in his life -- Butcher&#039;s Crossing and Stoner, which NYRB publish, and Augustus: A Novel, which is still in commercial publication.  I ran into his name in an NYRB article and was ashamed that I had never heard of him.  Ordered and read all three and think he may be one of America&#039;s most under-rated authors ever.  The three books are dramatically different -- although I would rank the first two with Stegner if I was making comparisons.  Augustus is totally different but also very good.  My wife and I are fans of Rome (the HBO-BBC) epic and this novel actually picks up where the TV series left off.  I&#039;ve now loaned it to four different people who loved the series and like the book equally well.  It is completely different from his other two books (I don&#039;t think Stegner could have script written Rome) but all three books are very good.  It is most interesting to me to run into a writer who wrote so little, wrote so differently and, most important, wrote so well.

I&#039;m sure your to-be-read pile is high, just thought I would see if I could make it higher.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Trevor:  This is probably going to be a long reply, boring to others on the post, but what the heck.</p>
<p>I would be happy to provide Giller recommendations but they may have to wait for a few weeks.  I&#8217;ve been grumpy about the Giller in the last few years.  Two winners were short story collections (The Runaway by Alice Munro and Bloodletting &amp; Miraculous Cures by Vincent Lam);  they are both fine books, but I admit I am not a short story fan, don&#8217;t read many of them and don&#8217;t feel qualified to either recommend or dismiss them.  Last year&#8217;s winner, Nights on Air by Elizabeth Hay, is a fine book but I don&#8217;t think it would travel well &#8212; set in Yellowknife, it is mainly about the modern frontier experience and you need a knowledge of the CBC to truly experience it.</p>
<p>Your comment has, however, moved up two other books on my re-read list.  Clara Callan by Richard Wright won the Giller in 2001 and Netherland caused me to think I should give it another read.  The book is an exchange of letters between sisters &#8212; one in New York where she is a soap opera radio star, the other in the Ottawa River Valley (all this in the 1930s).  I quite liked it when it was published &#8212; I&#8217;ll give it another read and see if it has stood up to the last seven years.  I&#8217;m also planning to reread The In-Between Life of Vikram Lall by M. G. Vassanji which won in 2003.  Vassanji is topical now because his latest book (The Assassin&#8217;s Song) is just being released in the U.K. &#8212; it is not a good book.  When he is good, Vassanji is very, very good &#8212; when he is bad, he is horrid.  Again, I&#8217;ll send more thoughts later.</p>
<p>I note your interest in translated work and wonder if you have ever run into Nancy Huston.  She was born and raised in Calgary, Alberta (that&#8217;s where I live) and moved to Paris in her teens which is where she is now.  She writes most, but not all, of her work in French and then does her own translation.  She is very, very successful in France &#8212; has won the Prix Gencourt, Prix Femina, etc. &#8212; and routinely sells hundreds of thousands of copies there.  Alas, her English translations get little attention.  Her most recent book, Fault Lines (and it is the one I would point you too) sold more than 400,000 copies in 2005 in France and won the Prix Femina &#8212; but won&#8217;t be published in the U.S. until Oct. 1 this year.  I thought it was an excellent book (albeit with flaws) &#8212; Google it and check out the Guardian review, which I think is quite fair.  It does strike me as your kind of book and I think Huston is a very good author.</p>
<p>And finally, given your interest in NYRB Classics (which I both share and salute), have you looked at John Williams?  He only wrote three novels in his life &#8212; Butcher&#8217;s Crossing and Stoner, which NYRB publish, and Augustus: A Novel, which is still in commercial publication.  I ran into his name in an NYRB article and was ashamed that I had never heard of him.  Ordered and read all three and think he may be one of America&#8217;s most under-rated authors ever.  The three books are dramatically different &#8212; although I would rank the first two with Stegner if I was making comparisons.  Augustus is totally different but also very good.  My wife and I are fans of Rome (the HBO-BBC) epic and this novel actually picks up where the TV series left off.  I&#8217;ve now loaned it to four different people who loved the series and like the book equally well.  It is completely different from his other two books (I don&#8217;t think Stegner could have script written Rome) but all three books are very good.  It is most interesting to me to run into a writer who wrote so little, wrote so differently and, most important, wrote so well.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure your to-be-read pile is high, just thought I would see if I could make it higher.</p>
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		<title>By: Trevor Berrett</title>
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		<dc:creator>Trevor Berrett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Aug 2008 00:37:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kevin, I&#039;m thrilled to have your insight while the Giller prize longlist is in session.  I&#039;ve never followed it at all, though I think its jury is a bit more of my style than the Booker&#039;s was this year.  What winners and shortlisters from the Giller Prize do you recommend to give me a tantalizing taste?

(And while I&#039;m being faithful with &lt;em&gt;The Northern Clemency&lt;/em&gt; my mind is not following it well.  If I cheat, I&#039;ll disclose it in my review - which cheating would be a bit of a review in and of itself.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kevin, I&#8217;m thrilled to have your insight while the Giller prize longlist is in session.  I&#8217;ve never followed it at all, though I think its jury is a bit more of my style than the Booker&#8217;s was this year.  What winners and shortlisters from the Giller Prize do you recommend to give me a tantalizing taste?</p>
<p>(And while I&#8217;m being faithful with <em>The Northern Clemency</em> my mind is not following it well.  If I cheat, I&#8217;ll disclose it in my review &#8211; which cheating would be a bit of a review in and of itself.)</p>
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		<title>By: KevinfromCanada</title>
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		<dc:creator>KevinfromCanada</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Aug 2008 23:10:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The only reason to finish The Northern Clemency is out of feality to a pledge to read all books (and you and I have both used living in North America to excuse ourself from the Arnold).  It is a dreadful book.  I don&#039;t normally advocate cheating, but would definitely consider it in this case.

Thanks for your comments on the other two NYRB Books.  Given the price break on ordering all three (and I am certainly not price sensitive), I&#039;m thinking I&#039;ll take a shot.  I don&#039;t always agree with the NYRB but they tend to be right more often than wrong.  Just the fact that they chose to group them piques my interest -- particularly since your review of The Day of Owl makes it sound like a most interesting book.

And, without causing you to groan too much, you can consider that for me the Man Booker longlist is just a warm-up.  The Giller Prize longlist for Canadian novels is released Sept. 15 and that&#039;s when my real work starts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The only reason to finish The Northern Clemency is out of feality to a pledge to read all books (and you and I have both used living in North America to excuse ourself from the Arnold).  It is a dreadful book.  I don&#8217;t normally advocate cheating, but would definitely consider it in this case.</p>
<p>Thanks for your comments on the other two NYRB Books.  Given the price break on ordering all three (and I am certainly not price sensitive), I&#8217;m thinking I&#8217;ll take a shot.  I don&#8217;t always agree with the NYRB but they tend to be right more often than wrong.  Just the fact that they chose to group them piques my interest &#8212; particularly since your review of The Day of Owl makes it sound like a most interesting book.</p>
<p>And, without causing you to groan too much, you can consider that for me the Man Booker longlist is just a warm-up.  The Giller Prize longlist for Canadian novels is released Sept. 15 and that&#8217;s when my real work starts.</p>
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