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	<title>Comments on: Amitav Ghosh: Sea of Poppies</title>
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		<title>By: Max Cairnduff</title>
		<link>http://mookseandgripes.com/reviews/2008/09/01/amitav-ghoshs-sea-of-poppies/comment-page-1/#comment-294</link>
		<dc:creator>Max Cairnduff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Sep 2008 12:13:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s all good news, I&#039;m still reading The Gift of Rain presently (barely started really, just tw chapters in, excellent chapters though) and I may struggle to put another novel set in early 20th Century South Asia immediately after it (Glass Palace I mean here), but I&#039;ll certainly bump it up my pile looking at your response.

I&#039;m avoiding Sea of Poppies at present as I think it&#039;s still only available in hardback, plus I have a morbid fear of authors dying just after completing book two and thus leaving me adrift without literary closure (to use an Americanism for which there is no direct British equivalent).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s all good news, I&#8217;m still reading The Gift of Rain presently (barely started really, just tw chapters in, excellent chapters though) and I may struggle to put another novel set in early 20th Century South Asia immediately after it (Glass Palace I mean here), but I&#8217;ll certainly bump it up my pile looking at your response.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m avoiding Sea of Poppies at present as I think it&#8217;s still only available in hardback, plus I have a morbid fear of authors dying just after completing book two and thus leaving me adrift without literary closure (to use an Americanism for which there is no direct British equivalent).</p>
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		<title>By: Trevor Berrett</title>
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		<dc:creator>Trevor Berrett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Sep 2008 23:02:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good questions, Max.  Since this was one of the better books up for the Booker this year, it&#039;s nice to think about it again.

I think Ghosh&#039;s prose style is excellent.  On that regard, it might be the best written work up for the Booker.  As far as being precise, however, I&#039;ve recently been reading a lot of Philip Roth and just recently Richard Yates - compared to them, Ghosh is quite abstract, going for feel rather than precision.  But I think that compared to other Victorian-esque novels, Ghosh&#039;s prose style was precise, even if like them it is not overly concise.

As far as page count goes, it actually took me a while to get into the book.  A lot of that time is spent getting to know characters, though, so it isn&#039;t awful.  I think that given the objectives of the book, it&#039;s page count is justified.  And it looks, honestly, like Ghosh has enough control over things to make the trilogy worth its page count too.  What I mean by that is that he gave no indication that by the time book three comes around he&#039;ll need 1000+ pages to wrap it all up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good questions, Max.  Since this was one of the better books up for the Booker this year, it&#8217;s nice to think about it again.</p>
<p>I think Ghosh&#8217;s prose style is excellent.  On that regard, it might be the best written work up for the Booker.  As far as being precise, however, I&#8217;ve recently been reading a lot of Philip Roth and just recently Richard Yates &#8211; compared to them, Ghosh is quite abstract, going for feel rather than precision.  But I think that compared to other Victorian-esque novels, Ghosh&#8217;s prose style was precise, even if like them it is not overly concise.</p>
<p>As far as page count goes, it actually took me a while to get into the book.  A lot of that time is spent getting to know characters, though, so it isn&#8217;t awful.  I think that given the objectives of the book, it&#8217;s page count is justified.  And it looks, honestly, like Ghosh has enough control over things to make the trilogy worth its page count too.  What I mean by that is that he gave no indication that by the time book three comes around he&#8217;ll need 1000+ pages to wrap it all up.</p>
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		<title>By: Max Cairnduff</title>
		<link>http://mookseandgripes.com/reviews/2008/09/01/amitav-ghoshs-sea-of-poppies/comment-page-1/#comment-292</link>
		<dc:creator>Max Cairnduff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Sep 2008 22:38:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your review seems true enough to me Trevor, it seems a very Victorian sort of novel (in theme and content, not just voice), and while I can enjoy such novels tremendously (and am looking forward to the copy of The Glass Palace currently sitting on my shelf and which I hope to read soon), one does have to be in a certain sort of mood for them in my experience.

I do agree with Kevin&#039;s comment on the trilogy point, at this stage it&#039;s not actually a completed work, it&#039;s one panel of a tryptch.  Until we have the full trilogy and can judge it in the round we can&#039;t say anything definitive about it (particularly not me, given I&#039;ve not read it yet).  If the final novel of the three is poor, inevitably in a work of this nature that would call into question the value of reading the first two.

A couple of small follow-up queries:

Victorian-style novels, being generally so packed with incident, can sometimes get away with less precise prose than a smaller and less packed work might be able to.  I note though you compare it favourably with the Unsworth on that regard, how would you rate Ghosh as a prose stylist overall?

Also, this is quite a large work as I recall, in terms of pagecount.  Is that space justified and necessary?  Is it large due to ambition and scope, or due to fat that could use trimming?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your review seems true enough to me Trevor, it seems a very Victorian sort of novel (in theme and content, not just voice), and while I can enjoy such novels tremendously (and am looking forward to the copy of The Glass Palace currently sitting on my shelf and which I hope to read soon), one does have to be in a certain sort of mood for them in my experience.</p>
<p>I do agree with Kevin&#8217;s comment on the trilogy point, at this stage it&#8217;s not actually a completed work, it&#8217;s one panel of a tryptch.  Until we have the full trilogy and can judge it in the round we can&#8217;t say anything definitive about it (particularly not me, given I&#8217;ve not read it yet).  If the final novel of the three is poor, inevitably in a work of this nature that would call into question the value of reading the first two.</p>
<p>A couple of small follow-up queries:</p>
<p>Victorian-style novels, being generally so packed with incident, can sometimes get away with less precise prose than a smaller and less packed work might be able to.  I note though you compare it favourably with the Unsworth on that regard, how would you rate Ghosh as a prose stylist overall?</p>
<p>Also, this is quite a large work as I recall, in terms of pagecount.  Is that space justified and necessary?  Is it large due to ambition and scope, or due to fat that could use trimming?</p>
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		<title>By: Bloggers take on the Booker longlist</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bloggers take on the Booker longlist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 20:52:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Isabel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Isabel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Sep 2008 23:54:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I Hated Sacred Hunger. But, I read all of Unworth&#039;s other books before reading Sacred. The topic didn&#039;t appeal to me.


I think that you gave this book a fair chance</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I Hated Sacred Hunger. But, I read all of Unworth&#8217;s other books before reading Sacred. The topic didn&#8217;t appeal to me.</p>
<p>I think that you gave this book a fair chance</p>
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		<title>By: Trevor Berrett</title>
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		<dc:creator>Trevor Berrett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Sep 2008 20:59:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I must say that a bit of time has passed since I finished this novel, and it is standing out more than most of the others on the list.  I&#039;ll definitely be reading the next installment.

I&#039;m not 100% sure that this one stands well enough on its own to garner a Booker Prize, though.  I had the same problem with &lt;em&gt;The Ghost Road&lt;/em&gt;, which I read before the others in the trilogy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I must say that a bit of time has passed since I finished this novel, and it is standing out more than most of the others on the list.  I&#8217;ll definitely be reading the next installment.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not 100% sure that this one stands well enough on its own to garner a Booker Prize, though.  I had the same problem with <em>The Ghost Road</em>, which I read before the others in the trilogy.</p>
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		<title>By: KevinfromCanada</title>
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		<dc:creator>KevinfromCanada</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Sep 2008 15:15:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Given that we know this is the first book in a trilogy, it is hard to come to any other positive conclusion than &quot;I&#039;m looking forward to the next one.&quot;  I did find it interesting and worthwhile, but I admit mainly in terms of thinking the next volume will be better.  Pat Barker won the Booker for Ghost Road -- I think I could make a good argument that it was the weakest book in the Regeneration Trilogy.  Having said that, it was a great trilogy.

As for The Northern Clemency...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Given that we know this is the first book in a trilogy, it is hard to come to any other positive conclusion than &#8220;I&#8217;m looking forward to the next one.&#8221;  I did find it interesting and worthwhile, but I admit mainly in terms of thinking the next volume will be better.  Pat Barker won the Booker for Ghost Road &#8212; I think I could make a good argument that it was the weakest book in the Regeneration Trilogy.  Having said that, it was a great trilogy.</p>
<p>As for The Northern Clemency&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Trevor Berrett</title>
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		<dc:creator>Trevor Berrett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Sep 2008 12:42:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Candy, I&#039;m afraid I have some bad news.  I&#039;ve put down &lt;em&gt;The Northern Clemency&lt;/em&gt; - for good.  I am simply not being fair to it when I try to push through it just to finish both it and the longlist.  I will still be posting my thoughts on Thursday and would love your counterbalancing comments!

John, I&#039;ll be referring people to your site and to dovegreyreader&#039;s to see contrasting reviews from two people who actually finished the book!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Candy, I&#8217;m afraid I have some bad news.  I&#8217;ve put down <em>The Northern Clemency</em> &#8211; for good.  I am simply not being fair to it when I try to push through it just to finish both it and the longlist.  I will still be posting my thoughts on Thursday and would love your counterbalancing comments!</p>
<p>John, I&#8217;ll be referring people to your site and to dovegreyreader&#8217;s to see contrasting reviews from two people who actually finished the book!</p>
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		<title>By: John Self</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Self</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Sep 2008 06:46:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://dovegreyreader.typepad.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Dovegreyreader&lt;/a&gt; loved &lt;em&gt;The Northern Clemency&lt;/em&gt; too Trevor.  However my thoughts, which have gone up today, are not so positive!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://dovegreyreader.typepad.com" rel="nofollow">Dovegreyreader</a> loved <em>The Northern Clemency</em> too Trevor.  However my thoughts, which have gone up today, are not so positive!</p>
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		<title>By: Candy Schultz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Candy Schultz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Sep 2008 03:03:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well I loved The Northern Clemency above all others.  I read all 763 pages in one sitting.  Whatever that is worth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well I loved The Northern Clemency above all others.  I read all 763 pages in one sitting.  Whatever that is worth.</p>
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