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		<title>By: The Mookse and the Gripes &#187; Tobias Wolff: In Pharaoh&#8217;s Army: Memories of the Lost War</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Mookse and the Gripes &#187; Tobias Wolff: In Pharaoh&#8217;s Army: Memories of the Lost War</dc:creator>
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		<description>[...] (Incidentally, The Quiet American is one of my favorites.) [...]</description>
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		<title>By: KevinfromCanada</title>
		<link>http://mookseandgripes.com/reviews/2008/09/25/graham-greenes-the-quiet-american/comment-page-1/#comment-3026</link>
		<dc:creator>KevinfromCanada</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 04:12:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve had a Folio Society volume of &lt;i&gt;The Human Factor&lt;/i&gt; staring me in the face for months, so I think it will be next -- not likely for some weeks, however.

I&#039;ve only started with Maxwell and intend to read him chronologically.  I think you will find him well worth your while.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve had a Folio Society volume of <i>The Human Factor</i> staring me in the face for months, so I think it will be next &#8212; not likely for some weeks, however.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve only started with Maxwell and intend to read him chronologically.  I think you will find him well worth your while.</p>
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		<title>By: Trevor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Trevor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 00:33:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the kind words, Kevin.  I&#039;d still like to read your review of the book but I&#039;m thrilled you brought it back up to attention here.  I definitely found more than I expected, and it sits firmly in my mind still.  It&#039;s incredible how in this book Greene foresaw the next fifty-plus years.

The other day I was torn between purchasing another Greene novel (either &lt;em&gt;The Power and the Glory&lt;/em&gt; or &lt;em&gt;The Heart of the Matter&lt;/em&gt;) but opted instead for William Maxwell&#039;s &lt;em&gt;So Long, See You Tomorrow&lt;/em&gt;.  I don&#039;t think I would have chosen poorly any way around, but I had not yet read Maxwell, so he won out in the end.  I hope to get to more Greene soon!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the kind words, Kevin.  I&#8217;d still like to read your review of the book but I&#8217;m thrilled you brought it back up to attention here.  I definitely found more than I expected, and it sits firmly in my mind still.  It&#8217;s incredible how in this book Greene foresaw the next fifty-plus years.</p>
<p>The other day I was torn between purchasing another Greene novel (either <em>The Power and the Glory</em> or <em>The Heart of the Matter</em>) but opted instead for William Maxwell&#8217;s <em>So Long, See You Tomorrow</em>.  I don&#8217;t think I would have chosen poorly any way around, but I had not yet read Maxwell, so he won out in the end.  I hope to get to more Greene soon!</p>
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		<title>By: KevinfromCanada</title>
		<link>http://mookseandgripes.com/reviews/2008/09/25/graham-greenes-the-quiet-american/comment-page-1/#comment-3023</link>
		<dc:creator>KevinfromCanada</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 19:44:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Like you, Trevor, my reading of Graham Greene has been sporadic.  I had not read &lt;i&gt;The Quiet American&lt;/i&gt; and did make a note when this review appeared.  I forgot about it until Sheila was in Indo-China earlier this spring and called to say she had visited a number of the places the Greene talks about in the book.

Finally got around to reading it this weekend, so I came back to check this review before attempting my own.  It is so good, that there is no way I can even hope to complement it -- so thought I would bring it back up on your comment list to recommend &lt;i&gt;The Quiet American&lt;/i&gt; to others.

As your review notes, Greene is not only prescient about what happens in Vietnam after 1955, he has some remarkable insights that are worthwhile more than 50 years later.  When America is wondering whether Iraq will restore &quot;order&quot; after its invasion; making threatening noises about Iran; and discovering what the British and Russians had already discovered in Afghanistan, Greene&#039;s thoughts about exporting &quot;democracy&quot; in the form of Pile&#039;s naive, but dangerous, interventions certainly give pause for thought.  It is only part of what is a very good novel (as you point out), but does make this book very timely.  In some ways, I&#039;m glad I waited so many months to read it.  And again, for anyone reading this comment, this review gets 10 out of 10.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like you, Trevor, my reading of Graham Greene has been sporadic.  I had not read <i>The Quiet American</i> and did make a note when this review appeared.  I forgot about it until Sheila was in Indo-China earlier this spring and called to say she had visited a number of the places the Greene talks about in the book.</p>
<p>Finally got around to reading it this weekend, so I came back to check this review before attempting my own.  It is so good, that there is no way I can even hope to complement it &#8212; so thought I would bring it back up on your comment list to recommend <i>The Quiet American</i> to others.</p>
<p>As your review notes, Greene is not only prescient about what happens in Vietnam after 1955, he has some remarkable insights that are worthwhile more than 50 years later.  When America is wondering whether Iraq will restore &#8220;order&#8221; after its invasion; making threatening noises about Iran; and discovering what the British and Russians had already discovered in Afghanistan, Greene&#8217;s thoughts about exporting &#8220;democracy&#8221; in the form of Pile&#8217;s naive, but dangerous, interventions certainly give pause for thought.  It is only part of what is a very good novel (as you point out), but does make this book very timely.  In some ways, I&#8217;m glad I waited so many months to read it.  And again, for anyone reading this comment, this review gets 10 out of 10.</p>
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		<title>By: Trevor Berrett</title>
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		<dc:creator>Trevor Berrett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 15:48:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Howard, I think &lt;em&gt;The End of the Affair&lt;/em&gt; will be my next Greene novel.  It&#039;ll be a bit before I get to it, but it&#039;s already moving above several other books in my pile.

As far as &lt;em&gt;The Third Man&lt;/em&gt; goes, Max&#039;s comment above that refers to Reed&#039;s &lt;em&gt;Odd Man Out&lt;/em&gt; hopefully can quell the concern.  But, I think, the speculation is inevitable; it was at the time &lt;em&gt;The Third Man&lt;/em&gt; came out and will continue especially now that all involved in the production are gone.  Speculation which, as you say, has no evidentiary support.  We just know that the film was brilliantly directed.  The fact that Reed continued to direct brilliantly definitely should be held as some support that Welles didn&#039;t direct.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Howard, I think <em>The End of the Affair</em> will be my next Greene novel.  It&#8217;ll be a bit before I get to it, but it&#8217;s already moving above several other books in my pile.</p>
<p>As far as <em>The Third Man</em> goes, Max&#8217;s comment above that refers to Reed&#8217;s <em>Odd Man Out</em> hopefully can quell the concern.  But, I think, the speculation is inevitable; it was at the time <em>The Third Man</em> came out and will continue especially now that all involved in the production are gone.  Speculation which, as you say, has no evidentiary support.  We just know that the film was brilliantly directed.  The fact that Reed continued to direct brilliantly definitely should be held as some support that Welles didn&#8217;t direct.</p>
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		<title>By: Howard Curtis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Howard Curtis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 08:52:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The End of the Affair is my absolutely favourite novel of all time.

There is no evidence whatsoever that Orson Welles directed any of The Third Man, and Welles himself firmly denied it.  What he did do, of course, apart from giving a wonderful performance as Harry Lime, was add those famous lines about Switzerland and cuckoo clocks to the end of the speech on the Ferris wheel.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The End of the Affair is my absolutely favourite novel of all time.</p>
<p>There is no evidence whatsoever that Orson Welles directed any of The Third Man, and Welles himself firmly denied it.  What he did do, of course, apart from giving a wonderful performance as Harry Lime, was add those famous lines about Switzerland and cuckoo clocks to the end of the speech on the Ferris wheel.</p>
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		<title>By: Trevor Berrett</title>
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		<dc:creator>Trevor Berrett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Sep 2008 23:05:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Max, I&#039;ll have to look up &lt;em&gt;Odd Man Out&lt;/em&gt;.  I definitely don&#039;t want to taint Reed&#039;s expertise.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Max, I&#8217;ll have to look up <em>Odd Man Out</em>.  I definitely don&#8217;t want to taint Reed&#8217;s expertise.</p>
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		<title>By: Max Cairnduff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Max Cairnduff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Sep 2008 22:51:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Third Man incidentally is worth watching simply as it&#039;s a tremendous piece of cinema.  I hadn&#039;t heard the rumour about Welles directing some of it, but having seen Reed&#039;s superb 1947 noir piece Odd Man Out I don&#039;t find it all difficult to believe that the same director was behind Third Man.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Third Man incidentally is worth watching simply as it&#8217;s a tremendous piece of cinema.  I hadn&#8217;t heard the rumour about Welles directing some of it, but having seen Reed&#8217;s superb 1947 noir piece Odd Man Out I don&#8217;t find it all difficult to believe that the same director was behind Third Man.</p>
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		<title>By: Max Cairnduff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Max Cairnduff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Sep 2008 22:47:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I loved Brighton Rock, that final line is devastating in the context of the novel and though it is joyless it was as noted above a joyless time.

Greene was an expert at the devasting final paragraph, often even final sentence, he had a tendency in the last words of a novel to cast a bleak light on all that had gone before.

Personally I&#039;m very fond of Brighton Rock, I consider Travels with my Aunt to have some very powerful imagery and some wonderful lines (as a man swaps one prison for another, under the illusion of finding freedom), Our Man in Havana has a final sentence that transforms the book from comedy to tragedy though I think its implications are often missed.  Obviously I&#039;m fonder of that last two than John, but I would say that Greene&#039;s work varies in my experience from good to great and the good are often more in the line of well written thrillers than deeper novels (of course, he himself called them entertainments as John rightly notes).  There&#039;s a lot he wrote that is rewarding to read when you read it, but does not perhaps linger in the memory, but I&#039;ve not read much by him that didn&#039;t at least have a scene or two that have stayed with me over the years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I loved Brighton Rock, that final line is devastating in the context of the novel and though it is joyless it was as noted above a joyless time.</p>
<p>Greene was an expert at the devasting final paragraph, often even final sentence, he had a tendency in the last words of a novel to cast a bleak light on all that had gone before.</p>
<p>Personally I&#8217;m very fond of Brighton Rock, I consider Travels with my Aunt to have some very powerful imagery and some wonderful lines (as a man swaps one prison for another, under the illusion of finding freedom), Our Man in Havana has a final sentence that transforms the book from comedy to tragedy though I think its implications are often missed.  Obviously I&#8217;m fonder of that last two than John, but I would say that Greene&#8217;s work varies in my experience from good to great and the good are often more in the line of well written thrillers than deeper novels (of course, he himself called them entertainments as John rightly notes).  There&#8217;s a lot he wrote that is rewarding to read when you read it, but does not perhaps linger in the memory, but I&#8217;ve not read much by him that didn&#8217;t at least have a scene or two that have stayed with me over the years.</p>
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		<title>By: Trevor Berrett</title>
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		<dc:creator>Trevor Berrett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2008 18:52:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John, I&#039;ll defer responding to what you have to say about Yates until after my review of &lt;em&gt;Revolutionary Road&lt;/em&gt; is posted.  Needless to say, however, I&#039;ve already got all of his books in my Amazon cart.

Rob, I think I might also watch &lt;em&gt;The Third Man&lt;/em&gt;.  It&#039;s been a long time, and the main reason I watched it the first time was to see if I believed people who said that Orson Welles actually directed it and not Carol Reed.  I have to say, it sure looks like he might have stepped behind the camera a time or two.  Anyway, now I want to watch it to learn more about Greene.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John, I&#8217;ll defer responding to what you have to say about Yates until after my review of <em>Revolutionary Road</em> is posted.  Needless to say, however, I&#8217;ve already got all of his books in my Amazon cart.</p>
<p>Rob, I think I might also watch <em>The Third Man</em>.  It&#8217;s been a long time, and the main reason I watched it the first time was to see if I believed people who said that Orson Welles actually directed it and not Carol Reed.  I have to say, it sure looks like he might have stepped behind the camera a time or two.  Anyway, now I want to watch it to learn more about Greene.</p>
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