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	<title>Comments on: Edith Wharton: The Age of Innocence</title>
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		<title>By: Trevor</title>
		<link>http://mookseandgripes.com/reviews/2009/03/12/edith-whartons-the-age-of-innocence/comment-page-1/#comment-2811</link>
		<dc:creator>Trevor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Jun 2009 03:29:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My wife and I sat down to watch Scorsese&#039;s film of this book.  We couldn&#039;t finish it!  Probably only got 40 or 50 minutes in before the melodrama and directing hijinx were starting to taint my memory of the novel.  Why the quick shots?  Why so many not-so-subtle cross references, if not simply to show cleverness?  Why the blacking out part of the scene so we could focus in on the speaker?  And—the device that finally tipped it over for us—why the Michelle Pfeiffer reciting a letter to Newland in a dramatic monologue from a sled?  Would having this as a voice over have stepped on the toes of Joanne Woodward&#039;s uninspiring narration?

I respect Scorsese and have found many of his films to be brilliant.  The production values in this film were exceedingly high (and the only thing that kept us going for as long as we got; my wife loved the costume and the authenticity), but the artifice was taken too seriously and completely ran over the story.  Seems anti-Wharton to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My wife and I sat down to watch Scorsese&#8217;s film of this book.  We couldn&#8217;t finish it!  Probably only got 40 or 50 minutes in before the melodrama and directing hijinx were starting to taint my memory of the novel.  Why the quick shots?  Why so many not-so-subtle cross references, if not simply to show cleverness?  Why the blacking out part of the scene so we could focus in on the speaker?  And—the device that finally tipped it over for us—why the Michelle Pfeiffer reciting a letter to Newland in a dramatic monologue from a sled?  Would having this as a voice over have stepped on the toes of Joanne Woodward&#8217;s uninspiring narration?</p>
<p>I respect Scorsese and have found many of his films to be brilliant.  The production values in this film were exceedingly high (and the only thing that kept us going for as long as we got; my wife loved the costume and the authenticity), but the artifice was taken too seriously and completely ran over the story.  Seems anti-Wharton to me.</p>
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		<title>By: Trevor</title>
		<link>http://mookseandgripes.com/reviews/2009/03/12/edith-whartons-the-age-of-innocence/comment-page-1/#comment-1518</link>
		<dc:creator>Trevor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2009 04:49:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the warning, Sheila.  By the way, I did get a hold of the book on Grasso.  Looking forward to it!  Especially since it was written in 2007.  Such a different world now!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the warning, Sheila.  By the way, I did get a hold of the book on Grasso.  Looking forward to it!  Especially since it was written in 2007.  Such a different world now!</p>
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		<title>By: Max Cairnduff</title>
		<link>http://mookseandgripes.com/reviews/2009/03/12/edith-whartons-the-age-of-innocence/comment-page-1/#comment-1512</link>
		<dc:creator>Max Cairnduff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2009 20:27:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I suspect the market for business tycoon bios is going to be off for a bit, following recent events.  Probably for the good really, it was never that great a genre to begin with.

Thinking about it, I have put my own wife off a couple of books by talking about them too much as I went through them, I now try to avoid it, it&#039;s a sad irony when your own enthusiasm becomes a barrier to someone else&#039;s enjoyment.  Easily done though.

She&#039;s better than I am at conveying &quot;this is great, you should read it&quot; without overdoing it or giving too much away, I really must read some Stefan Zweig actually, one of her favourites (Emma, my wife, is very big on Pushkin Press).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I suspect the market for business tycoon bios is going to be off for a bit, following recent events.  Probably for the good really, it was never that great a genre to begin with.</p>
<p>Thinking about it, I have put my own wife off a couple of books by talking about them too much as I went through them, I now try to avoid it, it&#8217;s a sad irony when your own enthusiasm becomes a barrier to someone else&#8217;s enjoyment.  Easily done though.</p>
<p>She&#8217;s better than I am at conveying &#8220;this is great, you should read it&#8221; without overdoing it or giving too much away, I really must read some Stefan Zweig actually, one of her favourites (Emma, my wife, is very big on Pushkin Press).</p>
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		<title>By: Sheila O'Brien</title>
		<link>http://mookseandgripes.com/reviews/2009/03/12/edith-whartons-the-age-of-innocence/comment-page-1/#comment-1508</link>
		<dc:creator>Sheila O'Brien</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2009 20:07:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lest anyone be tempted to buy &quot;Snowball&quot; - the bio of Warren Buffett, please DO NOT. This  is a doorstopper of epic proportions, and not at all worth the read. Only if you are after Michelle Obama Arms, and plan to carry it around for several weeks is it worth the purchase.  Better you should lug around &quot;War and Peace&quot; - same muscular effect, better osmosis potential.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lest anyone be tempted to buy &#8220;Snowball&#8221; &#8211; the bio of Warren Buffett, please DO NOT. This  is a doorstopper of epic proportions, and not at all worth the read. Only if you are after Michelle Obama Arms, and plan to carry it around for several weeks is it worth the purchase.  Better you should lug around &#8220;War and Peace&#8221; &#8211; same muscular effect, better osmosis potential.</p>
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		<title>By: Max Cairnduff</title>
		<link>http://mookseandgripes.com/reviews/2009/03/12/edith-whartons-the-age-of-innocence/comment-page-1/#comment-1505</link>
		<dc:creator>Max Cairnduff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2009 19:39:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I loved Black Dogs, but hated Amsterdam so much that I kept it for a while as a reminder never again to buy MacEwan.

That aside, I somehow missed half the comments on this blog entry before.  No idea how.  I work in the corporate world, more precisely I&#039;m a corporate lawyer, and it is a world poorly captured in literature mostly because very few writers have any real experience of it.

John Self&#039;s old favourite, Something Happened isn&#039;t bad, I don&#039;t recall Bonfire having that much on the actual corporate side of things, really though it&#039;s non-fiction where the best stuff is.  Barbarians at the Gate is excellent, Liar&#039;s Poker is rightly famous, those two would be at the top of my personal recommendations pile.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I loved Black Dogs, but hated Amsterdam so much that I kept it for a while as a reminder never again to buy MacEwan.</p>
<p>That aside, I somehow missed half the comments on this blog entry before.  No idea how.  I work in the corporate world, more precisely I&#8217;m a corporate lawyer, and it is a world poorly captured in literature mostly because very few writers have any real experience of it.</p>
<p>John Self&#8217;s old favourite, Something Happened isn&#8217;t bad, I don&#8217;t recall Bonfire having that much on the actual corporate side of things, really though it&#8217;s non-fiction where the best stuff is.  Barbarians at the Gate is excellent, Liar&#8217;s Poker is rightly famous, those two would be at the top of my personal recommendations pile.</p>
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		<title>By: KevinfromCanada</title>
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		<dc:creator>KevinfromCanada</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Mar 2009 15:15:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While I don&#039;t share Mrs. Berrett&#039;s criticisms of &lt;i&gt;Atonement&lt;/i&gt; or MacEwan, I can certainly understand them -- and why someone would hold them.  Which means that you didn&#039;t spoil the book for her, Trevor, because she would have had these same critical opinions (and they certainly have validity) whether or not she had heard what you thought of the book.  You are off the hook.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I don&#8217;t share Mrs. Berrett&#8217;s criticisms of <i>Atonement</i> or MacEwan, I can certainly understand them &#8212; and why someone would hold them.  Which means that you didn&#8217;t spoil the book for her, Trevor, because she would have had these same critical opinions (and they certainly have validity) whether or not she had heard what you thought of the book.  You are off the hook.</p>
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		<title>By: Mrs. Berrett</title>
		<link>http://mookseandgripes.com/reviews/2009/03/12/edith-whartons-the-age-of-innocence/comment-page-1/#comment-1465</link>
		<dc:creator>Mrs. Berrett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Mar 2009 14:22:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Smug would not be my choice of word.  Arrogant would be more accurate.  
I liked the premise, but his execution was a little too self-indulgent.  Almost baroque.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Smug would not be my choice of word.  Arrogant would be more accurate.<br />
I liked the premise, but his execution was a little too self-indulgent.  Almost baroque.</p>
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		<title>By: Trevor</title>
		<link>http://mookseandgripes.com/reviews/2009/03/12/edith-whartons-the-age-of-innocence/comment-page-1/#comment-1461</link>
		<dc:creator>Trevor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Mar 2009 12:47:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That was the problem, Kevin, she read it after I&#039;d built it up too much for her.  Ended in disappointment.  Not a McEwan fan, my wife.  Said his smug picture matched his prose.

I thoroughly enjoyed &lt;em&gt;Atonement&lt;/em&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That was the problem, Kevin, she read it after I&#8217;d built it up too much for her.  Ended in disappointment.  Not a McEwan fan, my wife.  Said his smug picture matched his prose.</p>
<p>I thoroughly enjoyed <em>Atonement</em>.</p>
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		<title>By: KevinfromCanada</title>
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		<dc:creator>KevinfromCanada</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Mar 2009 02:50:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Atonement is quite a good book.  Knowing something about it doesn&#039;t spoil it.  Read on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Atonement is quite a good book.  Knowing something about it doesn&#8217;t spoil it.  Read on.</p>
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		<title>By: Trevor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Trevor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Mar 2009 02:36:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I&#039;ll say it, you killed Atonement for me&lt;/blockquote&gt;

And I&#039;ve heard that enough from you now that you have ruined it for me too.  I now have to read it in secret.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I&#8217;ll say it, you killed Atonement for me</p></blockquote>
<p>And I&#8217;ve heard that enough from you now that you have ruined it for me too.  I now have to read it in secret.</p>
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