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		<title>By: Lee Monks</title>
		<link>http://mookseandgripes.com/reviews/2009/03/28/cormac-mccarthys-the-road/comment-page-1/#comment-7659</link>
		<dc:creator>Lee Monks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jun 2010 07:46:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ryan, art is sometimes (the best of it, often, not always) an attempt at reaching a truth beyond the obvious equations. There is no obligation to adhere stringently with &#039;how things are&#039;, and there is no need to feel angered by something beyond comprehension or understanding. Instead of merely asking, &#039;Why was that family following them?&#039; etc, why not ponder such things, without fear of being wrong or &#039;stupid&#039;, and make up your own mind? There is never going to be a collective answer, as you, and anyone else, will have to meet the work halfway and bring everything you have to the table to come to your own, worthy conclusion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ryan, art is sometimes (the best of it, often, not always) an attempt at reaching a truth beyond the obvious equations. There is no obligation to adhere stringently with &#8216;how things are&#8217;, and there is no need to feel angered by something beyond comprehension or understanding. Instead of merely asking, &#8216;Why was that family following them?&#8217; etc, why not ponder such things, without fear of being wrong or &#8216;stupid&#8217;, and make up your own mind? There is never going to be a collective answer, as you, and anyone else, will have to meet the work halfway and bring everything you have to the table to come to your own, worthy conclusion.</p>
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		<title>By: Trevor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Trevor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jun 2010 21:29:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Ryan, I haven&#039;t seen the movie and cannot tell you what anything in it means.  Maybe someone here can speak to that.  

As for the rest of your comment, I&#039;m certainly sympathetic.  One of my most hated books reviewed on this blog is Nadine Gordimer&#039;s &lt;a href=&quot;http://mookseandgripes.com/reviews/2008/07/07/nadine-gordimers-the-conservationist/&quot; title=&quot;Mookse Review of The Conservationist rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;The Conservationist&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;.  Ugh!  What a book!  I also don&#039;t like it when an author is so pleased with metaphors that they cloud out the rest of the work, either because the metaphors don&#039;t fit, because there are too many of them, or because they are so complex as to obfuscate even the simplest statements.

I do disagree with such a general negative disposition, though.  Reading is not, in many cases, thinking enough.  It might involve more thinking than, say, watching a soap opera, but maybe not.  If an author is making things difficult just to make it difficult, then I&#039;m with you.  But I don&#039;t feel that is the case all the time, and probably would disagree with you on many books.  

I also disagree that Shakespeare wrote the way he did because people talked like that back then.  If that was the case,  what a brilliant society that must have been!  Sure, some of what Shakespeare wrote even the drunkards in the audience groping women would understand more easily than we do today when reading it line by line.  But Shakespeare used wordplay and metaphor all over the place (and invented words), so if someone understood them then it was because they liked being forced to think harder than what is required by just sitting down and watching a play.

You should rest assured that despite our disagreements, and my subsequent preachiness, this was all for the sake of discussion and not because I think lowly of you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Ryan, I haven&#8217;t seen the movie and cannot tell you what anything in it means.  Maybe someone here can speak to that.  </p>
<p>As for the rest of your comment, I&#8217;m certainly sympathetic.  One of my most hated books reviewed on this blog is Nadine Gordimer&#8217;s <a href="http://mookseandgripes.com/reviews/2008/07/07/nadine-gordimers-the-conservationist/" title="Mookse Review of The Conservationist rel="nofollow"><em>The Conservationist</em></a>.  Ugh!  What a book!  I also don&#8217;t like it when an author is so pleased with metaphors that they cloud out the rest of the work, either because the metaphors don&#8217;t fit, because there are too many of them, or because they are so complex as to obfuscate even the simplest statements.</p>
<p>I do disagree with such a general negative disposition, though.  Reading is not, in many cases, thinking enough.  It might involve more thinking than, say, watching a soap opera, but maybe not.  If an author is making things difficult just to make it difficult, then I&#8217;m with you.  But I don&#8217;t feel that is the case all the time, and probably would disagree with you on many books.  </p>
<p>I also disagree that Shakespeare wrote the way he did because people talked like that back then.  If that was the case,  what a brilliant society that must have been!  Sure, some of what Shakespeare wrote even the drunkards in the audience groping women would understand more easily than we do today when reading it line by line.  But Shakespeare used wordplay and metaphor all over the place (and invented words), so if someone understood them then it was because they liked being forced to think harder than what is required by just sitting down and watching a play.</p>
<p>You should rest assured that despite our disagreements, and my subsequent preachiness, this was all for the sake of discussion and not because I think lowly of you.</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jun 2010 19:32:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What I just can&#039;t get through, and it frustrates me, because so many do it, is when an author is just so pompous. Its almost like they want to stump the reader as to what they mean.
They want to use to many metaphors, and simile&#039;s. Reading, is thinking enough. You don&#039;t want to have to have a thesaurus and dictionary to refer to as you get through a book.
Shakespeare wrote that way, because that is the way everyone talked at the time.
We do not talk like that. A father, in a barren post-apocalyptic world, would not talk like that.
Just tell the tale, and let us read it. 
Does my comment make me look stupid? Maybe. I can assure you I am not. 
I just saw the movie, and I am a little confused as to why they were being followed by that family. What did that mean? Why won&#039;t he have to worry anymore? Was his father a bad guy?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What I just can&#8217;t get through, and it frustrates me, because so many do it, is when an author is just so pompous. Its almost like they want to stump the reader as to what they mean.<br />
They want to use to many metaphors, and simile&#8217;s. Reading, is thinking enough. You don&#8217;t want to have to have a thesaurus and dictionary to refer to as you get through a book.<br />
Shakespeare wrote that way, because that is the way everyone talked at the time.<br />
We do not talk like that. A father, in a barren post-apocalyptic world, would not talk like that.<br />
Just tell the tale, and let us read it.<br />
Does my comment make me look stupid? Maybe. I can assure you I am not.<br />
I just saw the movie, and I am a little confused as to why they were being followed by that family. What did that mean? Why won&#8217;t he have to worry anymore? Was his father a bad guy?</p>
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		<title>By: The Puzzling Road &#171; Life as it ain&#39;t</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Puzzling Road &#171; Life as it ain&#39;t</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Mar 2010 18:31:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Barett of The Mookse and The Gripes loved the book and was rooting for its Pulitzer win that [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Like the onset of some cold glaucoma dimming away the world &#171; Pechorin&#8217;s Journal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Like the onset of some cold glaucoma dimming away the world &#171; Pechorin&#8217;s Journal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jan 2010 14:44:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] of The Mookse and the Gripes, wrote up The Road here in a review which picks out its key elements with great accuracy. In particular, it&#8217;s easy [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Jonathan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jonathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Apr 2009 21:05:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;McCarthy ... sometimes overdoes it with his language&quot; 

Oh yes, my goodness. The first time I picked &lt;em&gt;The Road&lt;/em&gt; up, I put it down after a page. McCarthy&#039;s prose can be overwrought, pompous and offputting. But thankfully I later had another go and thought it was brilliant. (More detailed comments &lt;a href=&quot;http://underthought.wordpress.com/2008/12/04/cormac-mccarthy-the-road/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;).

It&#039;s absolutely about a father-son relationship. I don&#039;t have a son but I can&#039;t read it any other way. Michael Chabon makes the point perfectly in a terrific &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nybooks.com/articles/article-preview?article_id=19856&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;review&lt;/a&gt; (though I think it&#039;s subscription-only access now). &lt;em&gt;The Road&lt;/em&gt; isn&#039;t sci-fi, it&#039;s horror: a chillingly real evocation of a parent&#039;s worst fears.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;McCarthy &#8230; sometimes overdoes it with his language&#8221; </p>
<p>Oh yes, my goodness. The first time I picked <em>The Road</em> up, I put it down after a page. McCarthy&#8217;s prose can be overwrought, pompous and offputting. But thankfully I later had another go and thought it was brilliant. (More detailed comments <a href="http://underthought.wordpress.com/2008/12/04/cormac-mccarthy-the-road/" rel="nofollow">here</a>).</p>
<p>It&#8217;s absolutely about a father-son relationship. I don&#8217;t have a son but I can&#8217;t read it any other way. Michael Chabon makes the point perfectly in a terrific <a href="http://www.nybooks.com/articles/article-preview?article_id=19856" rel="nofollow">review</a> (though I think it&#8217;s subscription-only access now). <em>The Road</em> isn&#8217;t sci-fi, it&#8217;s horror: a chillingly real evocation of a parent&#8217;s worst fears.</p>
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		<title>By: Trevor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Trevor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2009 14:12:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, I&#039;m glad you caught that, John!  I figured most people would think it was just a typo or me being strange (well, maybe it &lt;em&gt;is&lt;/em&gt; me being strange, but not without purpose).

I would definitely be interested in your views now that you have a son.  I agree with you about the occasional &quot;huh?&quot; that McCarthy&#039;s language raises, and you picked a good quote to show that; but with this book I was definitely able to let that go because of how clearly it spoke to me most of the time.  I wonder if it would be similar for you now.

By the way, &lt;em&gt;cute&lt;/em&gt; son!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, I&#8217;m glad you caught that, John!  I figured most people would think it was just a typo or me being strange (well, maybe it <em>is</em> me being strange, but not without purpose).</p>
<p>I would definitely be interested in your views now that you have a son.  I agree with you about the occasional &#8220;huh?&#8221; that McCarthy&#8217;s language raises, and you picked a good quote to show that; but with this book I was definitely able to let that go because of how clearly it spoke to me most of the time.  I wonder if it would be similar for you now.</p>
<p>By the way, <em>cute</em> son!</p>
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		<title>By: John Self</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Self</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2009 09:27:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;That was not sentimental.  That was not sentimental.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

As no-one else has picked up (or at least commented) on this, I thought I&#039;d say: nice!

I too read &lt;em&gt;The Road&lt;/em&gt; in 2006 - right at the end of the year, so it just missed being the first book I reviewed on my blog - and I gave it a notional four stars out of five, with the deduction coming from my usual feeling from McCarthy, that he sometimes overdoes it with his language (&quot;The snow fell nor did it cease to fall&quot; being one phrase that I recall).

However I do wonder now if I should reread it, now that I have a son of my own, to see if the added emotional heft pushes it higher still.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>That was not sentimental.  That was not sentimental.</p></blockquote>
<p>As no-one else has picked up (or at least commented) on this, I thought I&#8217;d say: nice!</p>
<p>I too read <em>The Road</em> in 2006 &#8211; right at the end of the year, so it just missed being the first book I reviewed on my blog &#8211; and I gave it a notional four stars out of five, with the deduction coming from my usual feeling from McCarthy, that he sometimes overdoes it with his language (&#8220;The snow fell nor did it cease to fall&#8221; being one phrase that I recall).</p>
<p>However I do wonder now if I should reread it, now that I have a son of my own, to see if the added emotional heft pushes it higher still.</p>
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		<title>By: KevinfromCanada</title>
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		<dc:creator>KevinfromCanada</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Mar 2009 21:24:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perhaps I overstated myself -- it isn&#039;t that the book is totally bleak, it is just that the resolution occurs in such bleak circumstances (and that is true of the McCarthy that I have read).  I will definitely read the book at some point, but in fairness to both it and the author I think I need to wait until I am in the right mood.  With two feet of snow in the backyard at the end of March and the poor dog looking at snowbanks that are twice her size, I think it might be a mid-summer, read it on the patio effort, if you can understand my thinking.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps I overstated myself &#8212; it isn&#8217;t that the book is totally bleak, it is just that the resolution occurs in such bleak circumstances (and that is true of the McCarthy that I have read).  I will definitely read the book at some point, but in fairness to both it and the author I think I need to wait until I am in the right mood.  With two feet of snow in the backyard at the end of March and the poor dog looking at snowbanks that are twice her size, I think it might be a mid-summer, read it on the patio effort, if you can understand my thinking.</p>
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		<title>By: Mrs. Berrett</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mrs. Berrett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Mar 2009 20:12:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not specifically addressing the ending.  I find myself still questioning whether there was a happy ending.  It is a bit suspicious they waited to talk to the boy until the father was gone.  Why wait until no one is protecting him?  I find that suspect.
But as I said, I don&#039;t find it bleak but beautiful.  Despite the bleak situation humanity still prevails.  The point of the book isn&#039;t the state of the world, but the relationship that still endures.  
Maybe that makes it more bleak, that something so beautiful is surrounded by so much ugliness.  Which then would suggest the ending is very bleak.  But still, the hope was alive in the father/son even if they no longer wanted to have it.
Kevin- 
Trevor says to pull it out.  It&#039;s a one day read.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not specifically addressing the ending.  I find myself still questioning whether there was a happy ending.  It is a bit suspicious they waited to talk to the boy until the father was gone.  Why wait until no one is protecting him?  I find that suspect.<br />
But as I said, I don&#8217;t find it bleak but beautiful.  Despite the bleak situation humanity still prevails.  The point of the book isn&#8217;t the state of the world, but the relationship that still endures.<br />
Maybe that makes it more bleak, that something so beautiful is surrounded by so much ugliness.  Which then would suggest the ending is very bleak.  But still, the hope was alive in the father/son even if they no longer wanted to have it.<br />
Kevin-<br />
Trevor says to pull it out.  It&#8217;s a one day read.</p>
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