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		<title>By: KevinfromCanada</title>
		<link>http://mookseandgripes.com/reviews/2009/05/01/richard-prices-lush-life/comment-page-1/#comment-2404</link>
		<dc:creator>KevinfromCanada</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2009 15:38:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I remember that as well, Trevor.  I also remember thinking at the time;  Okay, he was first a novelist.  And because his genre and style fitted the cinematic approach of Simon (also first a writer) he gets offered the screenplays and the money is attractive.  But, being first a novelist (in full control of his work), even a creator-driven series like The Wire produces script compromises that are hard to accept.  On the other hand, the screenwriting does finance the novel writing.  I will get to Price&#039;s novels eventually, but I suspect it is going to take a while.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I remember that as well, Trevor.  I also remember thinking at the time;  Okay, he was first a novelist.  And because his genre and style fitted the cinematic approach of Simon (also first a writer) he gets offered the screenplays and the money is attractive.  But, being first a novelist (in full control of his work), even a creator-driven series like The Wire produces script compromises that are hard to accept.  On the other hand, the screenwriting does finance the novel writing.  I will get to Price&#8217;s novels eventually, but I suspect it is going to take a while.</p>
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		<title>By: Trevor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Trevor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2009 15:20:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s an interesting part in &lt;em&gt;Lush Life&lt;/em&gt; where I think Price is commenting on screenwriting:

&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;I&#039;m working on a screenplay.&quot;  Saying it like he was embarrassed.

&quot;For a move?&quot;

&quot;For money.&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I remember his saying in John&#039;s interview that he is first and last a novelist but writes screenplays to buy time to write novels.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s an interesting part in <em>Lush Life</em> where I think Price is commenting on screenwriting:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;I&#8217;m working on a screenplay.&#8221;  Saying it like he was embarrassed.</p>
<p>&#8220;For a move?&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;For money.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>I remember his saying in John&#8217;s interview that he is first and last a novelist but writes screenplays to buy time to write novels.</p>
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		<title>By: KevinfromCanada</title>
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		<dc:creator>KevinfromCanada</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2009 15:02:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pelecanos has seven Wire credits, Price five.  David Simon, the series creator, was a Baltimore Sun reporter who spent a year in the projects, producing a book called The Corner.  It eventually became a tv series but he hated the network treatment it got, so he took the concept of The Wire to HBO.  The series became a home for a number of very good writers in need of a paycheque (Price references it in the e-interview he did with John Self) and it attracted an intense cult following.  I certainly recommend the DVDs but I&#039;d wait until after you&#039;ve read the novels you want to try.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pelecanos has seven Wire credits, Price five.  David Simon, the series creator, was a Baltimore Sun reporter who spent a year in the projects, producing a book called The Corner.  It eventually became a tv series but he hated the network treatment it got, so he took the concept of The Wire to HBO.  The series became a home for a number of very good writers in need of a paycheque (Price references it in the e-interview he did with John Self) and it attracted an intense cult following.  I certainly recommend the DVDs but I&#8217;d wait until after you&#8217;ve read the novels you want to try.</p>
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		<title>By: Max Cairnduff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Max Cairnduff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2009 11:44:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s interesting to know Kevin, I&#039;m presently reading a George Pelecanos novel, apparently he also wrote for The Wire.  He&#039;s, so far at least, a writer of real talent who like the best crime writers isn&#039;t really writing about crime at all but about the society it happens in.

Apparently his later novels are much more ambitious, which given how good the one I&#039;m reading now is makes me distinctly keen to read more of his stuff (though I&#039;ll have to see how this one ends first of course, a great first half of a novel need not always mean a great second half, as Baudolino shows).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s interesting to know Kevin, I&#8217;m presently reading a George Pelecanos novel, apparently he also wrote for The Wire.  He&#8217;s, so far at least, a writer of real talent who like the best crime writers isn&#8217;t really writing about crime at all but about the society it happens in.</p>
<p>Apparently his later novels are much more ambitious, which given how good the one I&#8217;m reading now is makes me distinctly keen to read more of his stuff (though I&#8217;ll have to see how this one ends first of course, a great first half of a novel need not always mean a great second half, as Baudolino shows).</p>
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		<title>By: KevinfromCanada</title>
		<link>http://mookseandgripes.com/reviews/2009/05/01/richard-prices-lush-life/comment-page-1/#comment-2398</link>
		<dc:creator>KevinfromCanada</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2009 22:26:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Max:  He&#039;s also a screenwriter (and a very good one) -- first came to my attention for his work on HBO&#039;s The Wire (and Lush Life is a book version of some of The Wire stories) which was an incredibly well-done series.  I keep getting close to his novels and then backing off -- I like his television work a lot but don&#039;t like crime novels.  One day I&#039;ll be in the mood, I imagine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Max:  He&#8217;s also a screenwriter (and a very good one) &#8212; first came to my attention for his work on HBO&#8217;s The Wire (and Lush Life is a book version of some of The Wire stories) which was an incredibly well-done series.  I keep getting close to his novels and then backing off &#8212; I like his television work a lot but don&#8217;t like crime novels.  One day I&#8217;ll be in the mood, I imagine.</p>
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		<title>By: Trevor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Trevor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 13:11:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Definitely one for the list, Max.  I&#039;m looking forward to &lt;em&gt;Clockers&lt;/em&gt; now.

I think cinematic is fair, mainly because he tells story through dialogue, sets up nice scenes, and propels the plot forward.  All of this without the cinematic trickery or sacrificing his characters for cleverness or plot movement.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Definitely one for the list, Max.  I&#8217;m looking forward to <em>Clockers</em> now.</p>
<p>I think cinematic is fair, mainly because he tells story through dialogue, sets up nice scenes, and propels the plot forward.  All of this without the cinematic trickery or sacrificing his characters for cleverness or plot movement.</p>
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		<title>By: Max Cairnduff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Max Cairnduff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 12:54:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice piece Trevor.  He sounds a very cinematic writer, is that fair?

I&#039;ll probably still start with Clockers, but you do make him sound appealing and I do enjoy the odd crime novel.  One for the list I think.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice piece Trevor.  He sounds a very cinematic writer, is that fair?</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll probably still start with Clockers, but you do make him sound appealing and I do enjoy the odd crime novel.  One for the list I think.</p>
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		<title>By: Trevor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Trevor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 May 2009 22:51:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I didn&#039;t catch that NPR interivew, Evie, so thanks for sharing.  Incredible how he can invent slang that sounds so perfect.  I just figured I was out of step when I came across a word I didn&#039;t know (probably was right about this half the time).

By the way, &lt;a href=&quot;http://theasylum.wordpress.com/2009/01/24/richard-price-q-a/&quot; title=&quot;The Asylum Interview with Richard Price&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here is an interview&lt;/a&gt; John Self conducted with Price on his blog.  Meant to link to it in the main post above (and have amended it so it&#039;s there) but realized it never happened.

Interesting point about the cops having more in common with the projects than with the gifted whites.  I think that is true.  Most of the cops were from minority backgrounds, even if not the projects. And it&#039;s interesting that, though their job usually makes them deal with the kids from the projects, many of whom they know by name, the police don&#039;t understand the cues Eric sends them during the interview.  They mostly misinterpret everything, but they are very gifted at picking apart a kid from the projects.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I didn&#8217;t catch that NPR interivew, Evie, so thanks for sharing.  Incredible how he can invent slang that sounds so perfect.  I just figured I was out of step when I came across a word I didn&#8217;t know (probably was right about this half the time).</p>
<p>By the way, <a href="http://theasylum.wordpress.com/2009/01/24/richard-price-q-a/" title="The Asylum Interview with Richard Price" rel="nofollow">here is an interview</a> John Self conducted with Price on his blog.  Meant to link to it in the main post above (and have amended it so it&#8217;s there) but realized it never happened.</p>
<p>Interesting point about the cops having more in common with the projects than with the gifted whites.  I think that is true.  Most of the cops were from minority backgrounds, even if not the projects. And it&#8217;s interesting that, though their job usually makes them deal with the kids from the projects, many of whom they know by name, the police don&#8217;t understand the cues Eric sends them during the interview.  They mostly misinterpret everything, but they are very gifted at picking apart a kid from the projects.</p>
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		<title>By: Evie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Evie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 May 2009 08:26:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I read a lot in the crime fiction genre, and I was very impressed with this last year. Price&#039;s oft-remarked skill for dialogue reminded me of the Australian crime writer, Peter Temple (who shares this skill). 

In an NPR interview earlier this year, Price was asked where he gets the slang he uses in his books. Price replied that he invents a lot of it, because otherwise the slang would be out of date by the time the book was published. Price&#039;s method involves a lot of observation of the police, so this probably applies more to the other characters (particularly those from the Projects). 

Reading the depiction of Eric Cash being interviewed, I  thought that Price might be saying that the Cops, and not just Yolonda, have more in common with people from the Projects than they do with the &quot;Young, Gifted Whites&quot;. They certainly have a better understanding of their behaviour and motivations.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read a lot in the crime fiction genre, and I was very impressed with this last year. Price&#8217;s oft-remarked skill for dialogue reminded me of the Australian crime writer, Peter Temple (who shares this skill). </p>
<p>In an NPR interview earlier this year, Price was asked where he gets the slang he uses in his books. Price replied that he invents a lot of it, because otherwise the slang would be out of date by the time the book was published. Price&#8217;s method involves a lot of observation of the police, so this probably applies more to the other characters (particularly those from the Projects). </p>
<p>Reading the depiction of Eric Cash being interviewed, I  thought that Price might be saying that the Cops, and not just Yolonda, have more in common with people from the Projects than they do with the &#8220;Young, Gifted Whites&#8221;. They certainly have a better understanding of their behaviour and motivations.</p>
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		<title>By: Trevor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Trevor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 May 2009 01:38:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it is set in 2002.  At least, I seem to remember some things indicating a time around then.  And sure enough, non-yuppies still live in the Lower East Side.  My impression was that the Lower East Side was taming a bit over the last decade, and I&#039;m not sure how the current economic situation is going to change that.  If people keep losing their downtown jobs, living downtown doesn&#039;t make as much sense.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it is set in 2002.  At least, I seem to remember some things indicating a time around then.  And sure enough, non-yuppies still live in the Lower East Side.  My impression was that the Lower East Side was taming a bit over the last decade, and I&#8217;m not sure how the current economic situation is going to change that.  If people keep losing their downtown jobs, living downtown doesn&#8217;t make as much sense.</p>
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