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		<title>By: Nicola</title>
		<link>http://mookseandgripes.com/reviews/2009/06/03/orange-prize-winner/comment-page-1/#comment-2781</link>
		<dc:creator>Nicola</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jun 2009 19:18:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I adored Gilead.  Home is Gilead from another perspective but I didn&#039;t enjoy it as much.  Just seemed to be endless days of not much happening, yes, life is like that, but it doesn&#039;t always make for a great read.  It fills some of the gaps from Gilead, though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I adored Gilead.  Home is Gilead from another perspective but I didn&#8217;t enjoy it as much.  Just seemed to be endless days of not much happening, yes, life is like that, but it doesn&#8217;t always make for a great read.  It fills some of the gaps from Gilead, though.</p>
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		<title>By: Trevor</title>
		<link>http://mookseandgripes.com/reviews/2009/06/03/orange-prize-winner/comment-page-1/#comment-2763</link>
		<dc:creator>Trevor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 23:35:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Vicki, you can find my intial thoughts on &lt;em&gt;Gilead&lt;/em&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://mookseandgripes.com/reviews/2009/01/31/marilynne-robinsons-gilead/&quot; title=&quot;Mookse Review of Gilead&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.  I will be reading &lt;em&gt;Home&lt;/em&gt; but I don&#039;t know when yet.  I still don&#039;t have it, so I&#039;ll probably at this point wait until it&#039;s out in paperback.  It&#039;ll come up here, though!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Vicki, you can find my intial thoughts on <em>Gilead</em> <a href="http://mookseandgripes.com/reviews/2009/01/31/marilynne-robinsons-gilead/" title="Mookse Review of Gilead" rel="nofollow">here</a>.  I will be reading <em>Home</em> but I don&#8217;t know when yet.  I still don&#8217;t have it, so I&#8217;ll probably at this point wait until it&#8217;s out in paperback.  It&#8217;ll come up here, though!</p>
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		<title>By: Vicki</title>
		<link>http://mookseandgripes.com/reviews/2009/06/03/orange-prize-winner/comment-page-1/#comment-2762</link>
		<dc:creator>Vicki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 22:25:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Argh, another person who hasn&#039;t read Home! I blogged on it anyway - thinking readers might help me out but now I think I might be in trouble!! I&#039;d be interested in your thoughts on Gilead if you have time though! Vicki</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Argh, another person who hasn&#8217;t read Home! I blogged on it anyway &#8211; thinking readers might help me out but now I think I might be in trouble!! I&#8217;d be interested in your thoughts on Gilead if you have time though! Vicki</p>
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		<title>By: Trevor</title>
		<link>http://mookseandgripes.com/reviews/2009/06/03/orange-prize-winner/comment-page-1/#comment-2759</link>
		<dc:creator>Trevor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 17:34:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been only slightly paying attention to the &lt;em&gt;Home&lt;/em&gt; discussion as I plan to read it.  When I do though, Kevin, I&#039;ll try to figure out which I like better and why that might be so.  

As for &lt;em&gt;Housekeeping&lt;/em&gt; being a subtle reflection of American law, that might be more of a suggestion than an insight.  I couldn&#039;t believe how many zoning ordinances, primarily meant to keep a certain traditional type of family in an area, reference &quot;housekeeping&quot; as a term that somehow encompasses that.  The book does contain the literal and metaphoric meanings of &quot;housekeeping,&quot; but it also deals with family law (always in the background) and unconventional families.  

I&#039;d love to know if this was intentional or if it&#039;s just a nice coincidence that made the book come together for me in a different way than it would for other people.  Does anyone know Marilynne Robinson&#039;s Twitter account??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been only slightly paying attention to the <em>Home</em> discussion as I plan to read it.  When I do though, Kevin, I&#8217;ll try to figure out which I like better and why that might be so.  </p>
<p>As for <em>Housekeeping</em> being a subtle reflection of American law, that might be more of a suggestion than an insight.  I couldn&#8217;t believe how many zoning ordinances, primarily meant to keep a certain traditional type of family in an area, reference &#8220;housekeeping&#8221; as a term that somehow encompasses that.  The book does contain the literal and metaphoric meanings of &#8220;housekeeping,&#8221; but it also deals with family law (always in the background) and unconventional families.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;d love to know if this was intentional or if it&#8217;s just a nice coincidence that made the book come together for me in a different way than it would for other people.  Does anyone know Marilynne Robinson&#8217;s Twitter account??</p>
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		<title>By: KevinfromCanada</title>
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		<dc:creator>KevinfromCanada</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 17:00:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am going to accept your point and I am still not going to read Gilead.  I do intend to read Housekeeping, since I am intrigued by Trevor&#039;s insight that the title is actually subtle reflection of American law.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am going to accept your point and I am still not going to read Gilead.  I do intend to read Housekeeping, since I am intrigued by Trevor&#8217;s insight that the title is actually subtle reflection of American law.</p>
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		<title>By: Colette Jones</title>
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		<dc:creator>Colette Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 16:50:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah, now I understand your frustration with Jack and I had forgotten that you hadn&#039;t read Gilead, Kevin.  Unfortunately, I think you have to get all the way through Gilead to understand Jack, even though Robinson says it should stand alone, and certainly some people loved Home without having read Gilead, e.g. Lizzy Siddal.  I note that she didn&#039;t have any sympathy or empathy for Jack, and I think that&#039;s what you lose by only reading Home.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, now I understand your frustration with Jack and I had forgotten that you hadn&#8217;t read Gilead, Kevin.  Unfortunately, I think you have to get all the way through Gilead to understand Jack, even though Robinson says it should stand alone, and certainly some people loved Home without having read Gilead, e.g. Lizzy Siddal.  I note that she didn&#8217;t have any sympathy or empathy for Jack, and I think that&#8217;s what you lose by only reading Home.</p>
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		<title>By: KevinfromCanada</title>
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		<dc:creator>KevinfromCanada</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 14:24:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Colette:  You are right -- &quot;empty&quot; is probably the wrong word.  I agree with your assessment of the relationship between father and son and the latent superiority the father both feels and shows.  My frustration with Jack as a character was that he just accepted that definition of the state of play.  

See Trevor, you probably should have read the book sooner and we wouldn&#039;t be spoiling it for you with all these obscure discussions.  I haven&#039;t read &lt;i&gt;Gilead&lt;/i&gt; but I do seem to notice that those who have read both showed a marked preference for one or the other.  Once you have read &lt;i&gt;Home&lt;/i&gt; I will be looking for an explanation of why this is so.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Colette:  You are right &#8212; &#8220;empty&#8221; is probably the wrong word.  I agree with your assessment of the relationship between father and son and the latent superiority the father both feels and shows.  My frustration with Jack as a character was that he just accepted that definition of the state of play.  </p>
<p>See Trevor, you probably should have read the book sooner and we wouldn&#8217;t be spoiling it for you with all these obscure discussions.  I haven&#8217;t read <i>Gilead</i> but I do seem to notice that those who have read both showed a marked preference for one or the other.  Once you have read <i>Home</i> I will be looking for an explanation of why this is so.</p>
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		<title>By: _lethe_</title>
		<link>http://mookseandgripes.com/reviews/2009/06/03/orange-prize-winner/comment-page-1/#comment-2755</link>
		<dc:creator>_lethe_</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 12:33:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Personally I was a bit disappointed with &lt;i&gt;Home&lt;/i&gt; after I loved &lt;i&gt;Gilead&lt;/i&gt; so much. I found it more &quot;ordinary&quot;, and Jack remains a frustrating mystery.

I plan to reread it some time though, because I might have been in the wrong mood for it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Personally I was a bit disappointed with <i>Home</i> after I loved <i>Gilead</i> so much. I found it more &#8220;ordinary&#8221;, and Jack remains a frustrating mystery.</p>
<p>I plan to reread it some time though, because I might have been in the wrong mood for it.</p>
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		<title>By: Colette Jones</title>
		<link>http://mookseandgripes.com/reviews/2009/06/03/orange-prize-winner/comment-page-1/#comment-2754</link>
		<dc:creator>Colette Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 07:18:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hm, I don&#039;t mind books which have religion in them at all, especially when they show how flawed it is, as most do.  I didn&#039;t care for Gilead but there is one thing I really liked about it, and that is how wrong Ames was about Jack.  He held a bias that was untrue, and no amount of praying and godliness was going to change that.  Only listening to Jack could do that, which he eventually does.

Similarly, in Home, Jack&#039;s father is flawed in his reasoning.  He thinks he&#039;s being a good, compassionate man trying to accept Jack, but he doesn&#039;t really accept him, does he?  He feels superior, the thing about some religious people that really rankles with me.  Glory is such a good friend to Jack because she does not feel superior, and in a strange way I think she looks up to Jack.  The building of the siblings&#039; friendship was beautifully told.

Kevin, it&#039;s interesting that you saw Jack becoming an empty character, whereas I would say that&#039;s how the father developed.  Jack showed more compassion in looking after his father than perhaps his racist and bigotted father deserved.

Candy, would you avoid Oranges Are Not the Only Fruit by Jeanette Winterson?  I read it recently and I have not laughed so hard at a book since Owen Meany.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hm, I don&#8217;t mind books which have religion in them at all, especially when they show how flawed it is, as most do.  I didn&#8217;t care for Gilead but there is one thing I really liked about it, and that is how wrong Ames was about Jack.  He held a bias that was untrue, and no amount of praying and godliness was going to change that.  Only listening to Jack could do that, which he eventually does.</p>
<p>Similarly, in Home, Jack&#8217;s father is flawed in his reasoning.  He thinks he&#8217;s being a good, compassionate man trying to accept Jack, but he doesn&#8217;t really accept him, does he?  He feels superior, the thing about some religious people that really rankles with me.  Glory is such a good friend to Jack because she does not feel superior, and in a strange way I think she looks up to Jack.  The building of the siblings&#8217; friendship was beautifully told.</p>
<p>Kevin, it&#8217;s interesting that you saw Jack becoming an empty character, whereas I would say that&#8217;s how the father developed.  Jack showed more compassion in looking after his father than perhaps his racist and bigotted father deserved.</p>
<p>Candy, would you avoid Oranges Are Not the Only Fruit by Jeanette Winterson?  I read it recently and I have not laughed so hard at a book since Owen Meany.</p>
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		<title>By: Candy Schultz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Candy Schultz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 01:55:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>True.  I&#039;ll keep Housekeeping in mind.  Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>True.  I&#8217;ll keep Housekeeping in mind.  Thanks.</p>
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