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	<title>Comments on: Philip Roth: Patrimony</title>
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		<title>By: Trevor</title>
		<link>http://mookseandgripes.com/reviews/2010/01/21/philip-roth-patrimony/comment-page-1/#comment-5274</link>
		<dc:creator>Trevor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jan 2010 16:28:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s an interesting piece in this week&#039;s &lt;em&gt;New Yorker&lt;/em&gt; that discusses memoirs.  You can read it &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.newyorker.com/arts/critics/books/2010/01/25/100125crbo_books_mendelsohn&quot; title=&quot;New Yorker Article&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.

I haven&#039;t figured out the exact parameters of my own definition of &quot;memoir&quot; for this project, though it certainly does not include many of the ones discussed in this piece.  I am not a fan of the &quot;memoir&quot; as it is defined in the bookstore.  In fact, though I am generally a person who will let people read whatever they want, I usually want to tip over the table of memoirs that blocks my entrance to the bookstore.  Then again, &lt;em&gt;Patrimony&lt;/em&gt; is a memoir; &lt;em&gt;This Boy&#039;s Life&lt;/em&gt; is a memoir.  What is different about them (I know, I&#039;m asking you to determine what I&#039;m thinking).  Perhaps it&#039;s as simple as the fact that I trust these writers.  I don&#039;t even care if they are not accurately conveying what actually happened; I trust they are conveying another kind of &quot;truth,&quot; or, rather, that they are conveying another kind of &quot;sense&quot; of what happened.  I trust their motives are not self-promoting (at least not entirely) and I trust that there is more to their writing than the desire to seek some kind of redemption by telling their story.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s an interesting piece in this week&#8217;s <em>New Yorker</em> that discusses memoirs.  You can read it <a href="http://www.newyorker.com/arts/critics/books/2010/01/25/100125crbo_books_mendelsohn" title="New Yorker Article" rel="nofollow">here</a>.</p>
<p>I haven&#8217;t figured out the exact parameters of my own definition of &#8220;memoir&#8221; for this project, though it certainly does not include many of the ones discussed in this piece.  I am not a fan of the &#8220;memoir&#8221; as it is defined in the bookstore.  In fact, though I am generally a person who will let people read whatever they want, I usually want to tip over the table of memoirs that blocks my entrance to the bookstore.  Then again, <em>Patrimony</em> is a memoir; <em>This Boy&#8217;s Life</em> is a memoir.  What is different about them (I know, I&#8217;m asking you to determine what I&#8217;m thinking).  Perhaps it&#8217;s as simple as the fact that I trust these writers.  I don&#8217;t even care if they are not accurately conveying what actually happened; I trust they are conveying another kind of &#8220;truth,&#8221; or, rather, that they are conveying another kind of &#8220;sense&#8221; of what happened.  I trust their motives are not self-promoting (at least not entirely) and I trust that there is more to their writing than the desire to seek some kind of redemption by telling their story.</p>
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		<title>By: Trevor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Trevor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jan 2010 16:13:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can understand not being a huge fan of Roth&#039;s, Amy, particularly if your sample is &lt;em&gt;Portnoy&lt;/em&gt; and &lt;em&gt;American Pastoral&lt;/em&gt;.  I haven&#039;t read &lt;em&gt;Portnoy&lt;/em&gt; yet, but its reputation is big enough that I almost feel like I have and can see how its shock might not allow time for one to adjust one&#039;s taste.  On the other hand, &lt;em&gt;American Pastoral&lt;/em&gt; is one of my favorite of Roth&#039;s.  I think, though, that much of my love for it comes from its placement in a larger series.  I know people read it and love it without having read the rest of Zuckerman, but I can&#039;t help but think the themese started in the first five Zuckerman novels ushered me to a prime seat for &lt;em&gt;American Pastoral&lt;/em&gt;.

&lt;em&gt;Patrimony&lt;/em&gt; is, I think, a prime place for people to begin their acquaintance with Roth (or to try again, if the first time didn&#039;t work).  It&#039;s a very delicate piece.  I hope when you read it you&#039;ll share your thoughts here and let me know if it helped you see Roth a bit differently.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can understand not being a huge fan of Roth&#8217;s, Amy, particularly if your sample is <em>Portnoy</em> and <em>American Pastoral</em>.  I haven&#8217;t read <em>Portnoy</em> yet, but its reputation is big enough that I almost feel like I have and can see how its shock might not allow time for one to adjust one&#8217;s taste.  On the other hand, <em>American Pastoral</em> is one of my favorite of Roth&#8217;s.  I think, though, that much of my love for it comes from its placement in a larger series.  I know people read it and love it without having read the rest of Zuckerman, but I can&#8217;t help but think the themese started in the first five Zuckerman novels ushered me to a prime seat for <em>American Pastoral</em>.</p>
<p><em>Patrimony</em> is, I think, a prime place for people to begin their acquaintance with Roth (or to try again, if the first time didn&#8217;t work).  It&#8217;s a very delicate piece.  I hope when you read it you&#8217;ll share your thoughts here and let me know if it helped you see Roth a bit differently.</p>
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		<title>By: Amy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jan 2010 15:38:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have only read a few of Roth&#039;s novels including American Pastoral and Portnoy&#039;s Complaint.  I confess I&#039;m not a huge fan of his but I am intrigued by this memoir.  You&#039;ve written a wonderful review that has me thinking I must read Patrimony!  It sounds like it provides a different perspective on Roth than one gets of him from reading his novels.  Not only does this memoir sound very touching but I feel sorry for Roth...he sounds vulnerable and troubled.  And his father sounds like a difficult but loving man and I&#039;m guessing they have a complicated relationship. 
Thank you for a wonderful, very interesting post &amp; review.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have only read a few of Roth&#8217;s novels including American Pastoral and Portnoy&#8217;s Complaint.  I confess I&#8217;m not a huge fan of his but I am intrigued by this memoir.  You&#8217;ve written a wonderful review that has me thinking I must read Patrimony!  It sounds like it provides a different perspective on Roth than one gets of him from reading his novels.  Not only does this memoir sound very touching but I feel sorry for Roth&#8230;he sounds vulnerable and troubled.  And his father sounds like a difficult but loving man and I&#8217;m guessing they have a complicated relationship.<br />
Thank you for a wonderful, very interesting post &amp; review.</p>
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