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		<title>Comment on Maile Meloy: &#8220;The Proxy Marriage&#8221; by Jon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 May 2012 18:41:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The decision was not about Obama; it was about all Americans.&quot;

Just a quick note.  When I see language like this, I think it&#039;s important to note that the only &quot;decision&quot; made was for Obama to make public his personal opinion.  Nothing changes legally--states can still ban gay marriage, etc.

(And as regards the value of Obama&#039;s personal decision, please see Glenn Greenwald in Salon.com for an anti-cheerleading stance of a gay man.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The decision was not about Obama; it was about all Americans.&#8221;</p>
<p>Just a quick note.  When I see language like this, I think it&#8217;s important to note that the only &#8220;decision&#8221; made was for Obama to make public his personal opinion.  Nothing changes legally&#8211;states can still ban gay marriage, etc.</p>
<p>(And as regards the value of Obama&#8217;s personal decision, please see Glenn Greenwald in Salon.com for an anti-cheerleading stance of a gay man.)</p>
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		<title>Comment on Maile Meloy: &#8220;The Proxy Marriage&#8221; by Jon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 May 2012 15:05:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m also a big Meloy fan (is there a better title around than &quot;Both Ways is the Only Way I Want It&quot;?), but found this story flawed and unsatisfying.  I agree with Trevor that the ending allowed for lots of possibilities, but this troubled me, as it highlighted the opaqueness of the character William.

There was something about Bridey that just jumped off the page--we got hints into her character throughout the story (e.g., the self-correction at the laugh over the vows).  In contrast, all along I had doubts about William&#039;s &quot;love&quot; for Bridey and now consistent his character was.

If someone so painfully shy really capable of falling into the role of easy confidante with the object of his affections?  What kind of &quot;love&quot; is it, if he wishes he could be freed somehow--that really feels more like an obsessive-compulsive disorder. (I.e., that dynamic just doesn&#039;t ring true for an authentic love--if he was able to get himself out of town, apply to school, etc., surely he could have found some way to express himself.)

I suppose Williams may be plausible, but he&#039;s just too opaque to know how to read him.  (In that sense, he&#039;s similar to Bridey&#039;s father--he&#039;s so reactive that pictures of Abu Graib (sp?) make him protest the war by denying marriage to soldiers?  Why?)

So, while I always enjoy Meloy&#039;s writing, and the character Bridey, there was too much of a cipher at the center of the story, and the ambiguous ending just added to a sour taste the story left.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m also a big Meloy fan (is there a better title around than &#8220;Both Ways is the Only Way I Want It&#8221;?), but found this story flawed and unsatisfying.  I agree with Trevor that the ending allowed for lots of possibilities, but this troubled me, as it highlighted the opaqueness of the character William.</p>
<p>There was something about Bridey that just jumped off the page&#8211;we got hints into her character throughout the story (e.g., the self-correction at the laugh over the vows).  In contrast, all along I had doubts about William&#8217;s &#8220;love&#8221; for Bridey and now consistent his character was.</p>
<p>If someone so painfully shy really capable of falling into the role of easy confidante with the object of his affections?  What kind of &#8220;love&#8221; is it, if he wishes he could be freed somehow&#8211;that really feels more like an obsessive-compulsive disorder. (I.e., that dynamic just doesn&#8217;t ring true for an authentic love&#8211;if he was able to get himself out of town, apply to school, etc., surely he could have found some way to express himself.)</p>
<p>I suppose Williams may be plausible, but he&#8217;s just too opaque to know how to read him.  (In that sense, he&#8217;s similar to Bridey&#8217;s father&#8211;he&#8217;s so reactive that pictures of Abu Graib (sp?) make him protest the war by denying marriage to soldiers?  Why?)</p>
<p>So, while I always enjoy Meloy&#8217;s writing, and the character Bridey, there was too much of a cipher at the center of the story, and the ambiguous ending just added to a sour taste the story left.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Maile Meloy: &#8220;The Proxy Marriage&#8221; by jerry</title>
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		<dc:creator>jerry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 May 2012 02:42:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Old fashioned yes but a beautiful story. I feel like Holden and want to call up Maile Meloy and buy her a drink for writing it.

Tremendous story, as good as anything the magazine has done in years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Old fashioned yes but a beautiful story. I feel like Holden and want to call up Maile Meloy and buy her a drink for writing it.</p>
<p>Tremendous story, as good as anything the magazine has done in years.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Penelope Fitzgerald: The Golden Child by Amateur Reader (Tom)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amateur Reader (Tom)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 May 2012 21:47:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s a trivial book, certainly, although within the genre of silly murder mysteries it&#039;s an unusually well-written one.  The murderer&#039;s confession is especially hilarious, too (the &quot;not my specialty&quot; line - am I thinking of the right book?).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s a trivial book, certainly, although within the genre of silly murder mysteries it&#8217;s an unusually well-written one.  The murderer&#8217;s confession is especially hilarious, too (the &#8220;not my specialty&#8221; line &#8211; am I thinking of the right book?).</p>
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		<title>Comment on Penelope Fitzgerald: The Golden Child by Lisa Hill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lisa Hill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 May 2012 05:23:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Like you I&#039;ve read The Bookshop and Offshore ... and I really like her writing, but I think I might skip this one!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like you I&#8217;ve read The Bookshop and Offshore &#8230; and I really like her writing, but I think I might skip this one!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Robert Walser: Berlin Stories by Trevor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Trevor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 May 2012 01:37:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tom, you probably know this, but for those who don&#039;t, the new edition of &lt;em&gt;The Walk&lt;/em&gt; is heavily revised because Walser himself heavily revised the version that was initially translated.  Bernofsky said that her method of, uhm, updating? the translation was by keeping Middleton&#039;s prose and only taking out the same words Walser himself did (or adding words, rearranging, etc.).  I&#039;d be interested in the difference, but according to Bernofsky Walser cut quite a bit of the excess out -- and there&#039;s still a lot of nice nice excess!

Pykk, great great point on Walser:

&lt;blockquote&gt;those expressions of exuberance seem to be very much acted -- he lets you know, by taking things too far, by being too humble, too nice, that this is not a writer writing unconsciously, it&#039;s a writer performing his writing, very self-consciously, for an audience [. . .]&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I agree.  My experience with that is in &lt;em&gt;The Tanners&lt;/em&gt; when the main character was one extreme and then the other, and you had to wonder just where he really sat, because the two extremes were obviously too extreme.  That said, in the early pieces in this collection, where it seems very autobiographical, he does have that same extreme vivacity.  In &lt;em&gt;The Walk&lt;/em&gt; he seems almost to be running from some dark demon, or life itself is that dark demon, and certainly there&#039;s the sense that the animated greetings are compensating for something.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tom, you probably know this, but for those who don&#8217;t, the new edition of <em>The Walk</em> is heavily revised because Walser himself heavily revised the version that was initially translated.  Bernofsky said that her method of, uhm, updating? the translation was by keeping Middleton&#8217;s prose and only taking out the same words Walser himself did (or adding words, rearranging, etc.).  I&#8217;d be interested in the difference, but according to Bernofsky Walser cut quite a bit of the excess out &#8212; and there&#8217;s still a lot of nice nice excess!</p>
<p>Pykk, great great point on Walser:</p>
<blockquote><p>those expressions of exuberance seem to be very much acted &#8212; he lets you know, by taking things too far, by being too humble, too nice, that this is not a writer writing unconsciously, it&#8217;s a writer performing his writing, very self-consciously, for an audience [. . .]</p></blockquote>
<p>I agree.  My experience with that is in <em>The Tanners</em> when the main character was one extreme and then the other, and you had to wonder just where he really sat, because the two extremes were obviously too extreme.  That said, in the early pieces in this collection, where it seems very autobiographical, he does have that same extreme vivacity.  In <em>The Walk</em> he seems almost to be running from some dark demon, or life itself is that dark demon, and certainly there&#8217;s the sense that the animated greetings are compensating for something.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Robert Walser: Berlin Stories by Pykk</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pykk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 May 2012 23:54:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for that review. I&#039;d like to read all of Walser in chronological order one day -- including this one; I haven&#039;t read it yet -- and see how his tone changes -- because I know that in Selected Stories, Speaking To The Rose, The Robber, and so on, those expressions of exuberance seem to be very much acted -- he lets you know, by taking things too far, by being too humble, too nice, that this is not a writer writing unconsciously, it&#039;s a writer performing his writing, very self-consciously, for an audience, who might want one thing or another thing -- he pretends he doesn&#039;t know -- and so he makes little finicky motions, cringing: a kind of friendly gentle masochism through fantastical unnecessary politeness, eg, from his short piece &quot;The Honeymoon:&quot;

&quot;Yet many other sights were in store for them, a farmer  plowing, for instance, and next to him a country manor of townlike appearance, over which a snail was strolling on some errand or other, if to speak of a stroll can be justified here. A robed rider rode on his buoyant horse out of a suggestive thicket, evidently on a mission, and a piece of rope, or string, was lying on a bench. The  bench was absorbed in the expectation of being sat on. To enumerate every concrete thing in the world would exhaust me, and the reader too, so I shall confine myself and wish the couple a safe return home and a cornucopia of delights on their life&#039;s way. All around they looked, were interested in a variety of things, took careful note of some, including an elephant, a dove, and a snake.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for that review. I&#8217;d like to read all of Walser in chronological order one day &#8212; including this one; I haven&#8217;t read it yet &#8212; and see how his tone changes &#8212; because I know that in Selected Stories, Speaking To The Rose, The Robber, and so on, those expressions of exuberance seem to be very much acted &#8212; he lets you know, by taking things too far, by being too humble, too nice, that this is not a writer writing unconsciously, it&#8217;s a writer performing his writing, very self-consciously, for an audience, who might want one thing or another thing &#8212; he pretends he doesn&#8217;t know &#8212; and so he makes little finicky motions, cringing: a kind of friendly gentle masochism through fantastical unnecessary politeness, eg, from his short piece &#8220;The Honeymoon:&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Yet many other sights were in store for them, a farmer  plowing, for instance, and next to him a country manor of townlike appearance, over which a snail was strolling on some errand or other, if to speak of a stroll can be justified here. A robed rider rode on his buoyant horse out of a suggestive thicket, evidently on a mission, and a piece of rope, or string, was lying on a bench. The  bench was absorbed in the expectation of being sat on. To enumerate every concrete thing in the world would exhaust me, and the reader too, so I shall confine myself and wish the couple a safe return home and a cornucopia of delights on their life&#8217;s way. All around they looked, were interested in a variety of things, took careful note of some, including an elephant, a dove, and a snake.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Maile Meloy: &#8220;The Proxy Marriage&#8221; by John Holmstrom</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Holmstrom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 May 2012 22:13:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Loved the story! Thanks for the happy ending...as I read I kept thinking that i didn&#039;t want to get to the end to find he was really gay, or she had been working a a hooker
for years, etc., etc.

Then of course I slid into memories of past &quot;loves&quot;  (divorced at 34, never re-married)
and the wonderful ladies that moved in and out of my life and the  dumb, dumb things I did and thought....no, matter I &quot;see&quot; them as slowly being more and more happy and unguarded and...well, anyway...thaks  Maile!

Onward.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Loved the story! Thanks for the happy ending&#8230;as I read I kept thinking that i didn&#8217;t want to get to the end to find he was really gay, or she had been working a a hooker<br />
for years, etc., etc.</p>
<p>Then of course I slid into memories of past &#8220;loves&#8221;  (divorced at 34, never re-married)<br />
and the wonderful ladies that moved in and out of my life and the  dumb, dumb things I did and thought&#8230;.no, matter I &#8220;see&#8221; them as slowly being more and more happy and unguarded and&#8230;well, anyway&#8230;thaks  Maile!</p>
<p>Onward.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Robert Walser: Berlin Stories by Amateur Reader (Tom)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amateur Reader (Tom)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 May 2012 21:36:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am reading &quot;The Walk&quot; right now, the version in &lt;i&gt;Selected Stories&lt;/i&gt;.  The New Directions version appears to be a radical rewrite of the same story.  I am eager to hear what you think.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am reading &#8220;The Walk&#8221; right now, the version in <i>Selected Stories</i>.  The New Directions version appears to be a radical rewrite of the same story.  I am eager to hear what you think.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Maile Meloy: &#8220;The Proxy Marriage&#8221; by Trevor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Trevor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 May 2012 17:43:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A great response, Roger.  I actually have that YA novel on my shelf and have heard good things about it, but I haven&#039;t read it yet.  I also have both of her novels there untouched as of yet.  I must lack a bit of faith that she can do those as well as she does short stories.  I need to get over that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A great response, Roger.  I actually have that YA novel on my shelf and have heard good things about it, but I haven&#8217;t read it yet.  I also have both of her novels there untouched as of yet.  I must lack a bit of faith that she can do those as well as she does short stories.  I need to get over that.</p>
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