{"id":11386,"date":"2014-04-08T15:26:08","date_gmt":"2014-04-08T19:26:08","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/mookseandgripes.com\/reviews\/?p=11386"},"modified":"2014-04-21T18:53:17","modified_gmt":"2014-04-21T22:53:17","slug":"andres-neuman-talking-to-ourselves","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/mookseandgripes.com\/reviews\/2014\/04\/08\/andres-neuman-talking-to-ourselves\/","title":{"rendered":"Andr\u00e9s Neuman: <em>Talking to Ourselves<\/em>"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Last year I very much enjoyed Andr\u00e9s Neuman&#8217;s <em>Traveler of the Century<\/em> (my post <a title=\"Mookse Review of Traveler of the Century\" href=\"http:\/\/mookseandgripes.com\/reviews\/2013\/03\/27\/andres-neuman-traveler-of-the-century\/\" target=\"_blank\">here<\/a>), which was\u00a0in the running for the Independent Foreign Fiction Prize and the Best Translated Book Award. It was a long book, rambling in just the right ways as we followed the characters around this strange city that moved around the map. I was thrilled to see that Neuman had a new book coming to us this year, a much shorter, by appearance much more serious, book: <em>Talking to Ourselves<\/em>\u00a0(<em>Hablar solos<\/em>, 2012; tr. from the Spanish by Nick Caistor and Lorenza Garcia, 2014).<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_11387\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-11387\" style=\"width: 343px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"11387\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/mookseandgripes.com\/reviews\/2014\/04\/08\/andres-neuman-talking-to-ourselves\/talking-to-ourselves\/#main\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/mookseandgripes.com\/reviews\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/03\/Talking-to-Ourselves.jpg?fit=353%2C530&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"353,530\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"Talking-to-Ourselves\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"&lt;p&gt;Review copy courtesy of FSG.&lt;\/p&gt;\n\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/mookseandgripes.com\/reviews\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/03\/Talking-to-Ourselves.jpg?fit=353%2C530&amp;ssl=1\" class=\"size-full wp-image-11387\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/mookseandgripes.com\/reviews\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/03\/Talking-to-Ourselves.jpg?resize=353%2C530\" alt=\"Review copy courtesy of FSG.\" width=\"353\" height=\"530\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/mookseandgripes.com\/reviews\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/03\/Talking-to-Ourselves.jpg?w=353&amp;ssl=1 353w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/mookseandgripes.com\/reviews\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/03\/Talking-to-Ourselves.jpg?resize=199%2C300&amp;ssl=1 199w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/mookseandgripes.com\/reviews\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/03\/Talking-to-Ourselves.jpg?resize=99%2C150&amp;ssl=1 99w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 353px) 100vw, 353px\" \/><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-11387\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Review copy courtesy of FSG.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>The book is structured around three characters. The first we hear from is ten-year-old Lito, who is thrilled because his father and mother are finally allowing him to ride along with his father on a truck haul. Lito thinks it&#8217;s because, at ten, he&#8217;s finally become a man. So he and his father, Mario,\u00a0say goodbye to Elena, his mother, jump in the truck, and set off on the road.<\/p>\n<p>The next section is narrated by Elena. Right up front she says, &#8220;They&#8217;ve just left. I hope my son\u00a0comes back happy. I already know my husband won&#8217;t be coming back.&#8221; She talks elusively about some secret, but it isn&#8217;t secret from us for long: Mario is dying, his body is already nearly unable to function, and this road trip is a now-or-never kind of thing.<\/p>\n<p>Mario narrates the next section, recording some of his thoughts on an iPhone so his son can listen to them later on.<\/p>\n<p>The book continues to alternate between these characters, though the chronology begins to warp. For example, in a later section narrated by Elena we know that Mario and Lito have made it back home safely (Mario is doing poorly, though), but when we get back to Mario, he&#8217;s still narrating from that trip, a ghost from the past.<\/p>\n<p>Indeed, perhaps the book&#8217;s strength, from my perspective, is the way the narrative flow warps the passage of time. We&#8217;re subtly introduced to this in the first line, which is simply:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><span style=\"color: #808000;\">Then I start to sing, and my mouth gets bigger.<\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Beginning with &#8220;then&#8221; this sentence makes us wonder what this follows, and why weren&#8217;t we given that information first. As it happens, the very next paragraph jumps back from the present just a step to give us the context, but the feel of time as a revolving rather than linear process sticks as the characters deal Mario&#8217;s death, both its approach and its wake.<\/p>\n<p>Neuman utilizes other techniques to explore death. For one, Elena is constantly reading death-haunted books, from John Banville&#8217;s <em>The Sea<\/em> to Flannery O&#8217;Connor&#8217;s &#8220;The Enduring Chill&#8221; to Virginia Woolf&#8217;s <em>On Being Ill <\/em>(among many others &#8212; a list of works cited is included at the end of the book). For me this part didn&#8217;t work. Frankly, those other books deal with death in unique, brilliant, better ways than I found here. Showing Elena confronting these texts is important to Elena&#8217;s character, but it came uncomfortably close (over the line, for me) to incorporation by reference, as if one can get the density and greatness of those works incorporated into one&#8217;s own simply by bringing them up with a few lines. These texts are presented in short bursts, further alienating them from the main narrative.<\/p>\n<p>For some, these texts will also cause issue because Elena&#8217;s passages are already the most lengthy in the book, leaving Lito and Mario almost\u00a0as side characters. Personally, I didn&#8217;t mind this. Elena is the most interesting character. Her struggle with the death of her husband is rendered more emotionally raw, even than her dying husband&#8217;s sections. I found Lito&#8217;s sections a bit trite, to be honest. Perhaps\u00a0that I appreciated\u00a0spending more time with Elena than with her husband and child suggests a weakness in Mario&#8217;s and Lito&#8217;s sections, though,\u00a0rather than any particular strength in Elena&#8217;s.<\/p>\n<p>Serious is definitely the word here. While <em>Traveler of the Century<\/em> dealt with serious issues, it was filled with whimsy and a genuine <em>joie de vivre<\/em>. he takes what he can get and considers excess and excretions signs of a life in the process of being well lived.\u00a0The doctor inserts himself into a relationship with\u00a0Elena, almost considering it his physician&#8217;s duty: provide comfort where one can. Strangely, this thread, in a novel ostensibly about communicating, whether with oneself or with someone else, is cut short.<\/p>\n<p>Which brings up my central problem with this novel: it never feels like Neuman is diving into the hole he&#8217;s pointing to the rest of us. He employs a number of devices to bring communication to our minds: Lito listens to his father&#8217;s side of phone conversations with his mother; the iPhone blocks communication, as Lito plays games on it rather than text his mother, who cannot understand his curt text-speak anyway; the iPhone is Mario&#8217;s way of recording his conversation with himself; the books are Elena&#8217;s ways of communicating with others going through what she has; and the doctor &#8220;communicates&#8221; with his patients in any way he sees fit.<\/p>\n<p>All of these are interesting pieces of a greater puzzle that never quite materializes. I do not mean I wish Neuman came to some grand conclusion. Such a conclusion would have felt manufactured. But given the book&#8217;s structural issues, I&#8217;d say the whole thing feels manufactured.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Trevor reviews Neuman&#8217;s follow-up to <em>Traveler of the Century<\/em>, <em>Talking to Ourselves<\/em>, translated from the Spanish by Nick Caistor and Lorenza Garcia. <a href=\"http:\/\/mookseandgripes.com\/reviews\/2014\/04\/08\/andres-neuman-talking-to-ourselves\/\"><u>Read the full post.<\/u><\/a>.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":12114,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"libsyn-item-id":0,"libsyn-show-id":0,"libsyn-post-error":"","libsyn-post-error_post-type":"","libsyn-post-error_post-permissions":"","libsyn-post-error_api":"","playlist-podcast-url":"","libsyn-episode-thumbnail":"","libsyn-episode-widescreen_image":"","libsyn-episode-blog_image":"","libsyn-episode-background_image":"","libsyn-post-episode-category-selection":"","libsyn-post-episode-player_use_thumbnail":"","libsyn-post-episode-player_use_theme":"","libsyn-post-episode-player_height":"","libsyn-post-episode-player_width":"","libsyn-post-episode-player_placement":"","libsyn-post-episode-player_use_download_link":"","libsyn-post-episode-player_use_download_link_text":"","libsyn-post-episode-player_custom_color":"","libsyn-post-episode-itunes-explicit":"","libsyn-post-episode":"","libsyn-post-episode-update-id3":"","libsyn-post-episode-release-date":"","libsyn-post-episode-simple-download":"","libsyn-release-date":"","libsyn-post-update-release-date":"","libsyn-is_draft":"","libsyn-new-media-media":"","libsyn-post-episode-subtitle":"","libsyn-new-media-image":"","libsyn-post-episode-keywords":"","libsyn-post-itunes":"","libsyn-post-episode-itunes-episode-number":"","libsyn-post-episode-itunes-season-number":"","libsyn-post-episode-itunes-episode-type":"","libsyn-post-episode-itunes-episode-title":"","libsyn-post-episode-itunes-episode-author":"","libsyn-destination-releases":"","libsyn-post-episode-advanced-destination-form-data":"","libsyn-post-episode-advanced-destination-form-data-enabled":"","libsyn-post-episode-advanced-destination-form-data-input-enabled":false,"libsyn-post-episode-premium_state":"","libsyn-episode-shortcode":"","libsyn-episode-embedurl":"","_monsterinsights_skip_tracking":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_active":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_note":"","_monsterinsights_sitenote_category":0,"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":true,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[397],"tags":[],"coauthors":[505],"class_list":["post-11386","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-andres-neuman"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/mookseandgripes.com\/reviews\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/04\/Talking-to-Ourselves.jpg?fit=353%2C530&ssl=1","jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/pqqvZ-2XE","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack_likes_enabled":false,"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/mookseandgripes.com\/reviews\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/11386","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/mookseandgripes.com\/reviews\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/mookseandgripes.com\/reviews\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mookseandgripes.com\/reviews\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mookseandgripes.com\/reviews\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=11386"}],"version-history":[{"count":9,"href":"https:\/\/mookseandgripes.com\/reviews\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/11386\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":12312,"href":"https:\/\/mookseandgripes.com\/reviews\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/11386\/revisions\/12312"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mookseandgripes.com\/reviews\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/12114"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/mookseandgripes.com\/reviews\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=11386"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mookseandgripes.com\/reviews\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=11386"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mookseandgripes.com\/reviews\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=11386"},{"taxonomy":"author","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mookseandgripes.com\/reviews\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/coauthors?post=11386"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}